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Elton John and baby Zachary...

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Hugh Briss, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Anyone who thinks gay couples should not be allowed to adopt is either :

    A: living in a time warp
    B: "At it" for the sake of argument
    C: An intolerant bigot (see A)
     
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    Nope. I am against it and I am not bigoted. For you to say that I am is utter nonsense and if anything suggests you are the intolerant one who cannot accept that someone has a different opinion to yourself. Which makes you in essence a bigot <ok>
     
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    Not that old one ER.
     
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  4. EDGE

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    How long before 2 ****'s hook up with the sole aim of adopting and raping **** out of some kid?

    Homosexuality is an illness.
     
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    I'll put you down as a "B".
     
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    My last post...

    Considering the children? Their opinions and rights? Children DON'T choose their parents, will get bullied at school for any reason, that's what kids do...What you guys don't understand is that kids nowadays are a lot more open minded than you'll ever be, having 2 dads or mums will be no different to having a fat mum or a poor dad (like Edge) <ok>
     
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    It's a tough one for me. There is something just alien to most of us on the situation where two people of the same sex are involved in raising a child. For me two men raising a baby certainly seems a little unsettling. We've had a couple of hundred thousand years of a traditional family unit being involved in bringing up children, to mix this up in the last decade is always going to seem uneasy to the majority of people, who have had such traditional expectations of a family unit engrained in them.

    But then I step back and think about it logically. Of all the gay people I know the majority would probably make great parents. You have children getting dragged up and abused by their own heterosexual parents, never mind the hardship faced by a life in care. So the ideas behind why should two upstanding individuals should be denied the opportunity to the adopt because of their sexuality does not make a lot of sense.

    So in summary for me, my gut is uneasy but my mind knows it's logical and the law is probably right on this.
     
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    If I said that a black couple should not be allowed to adopt a white chid what would that make me?
     
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    There is nothing old about it Dev. I fundamentally disagree with it.

    You being ex Army and ex Police however are not used to using your own mind to work things out. Which is where bigotry is engendered and nourishedwhen one cannot think for oneself.

    I have a different point of view from yourself. Does not mean I am either right or wrong. By your own reckoning you assume I am a bigot. Perhaps you should take a look at yourself first.
     
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    Dev don't bother with logic, they only pick up keywords...
     
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    And why do you not agree with it?
     
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    Mick, I used to think the same, but times have changed nowadays and I really don't think that a kid with gay parents will be gay, or bullied, or weird, and I think kids would consider it a lot more normal than we do due to more open minded teaching/culture. In an ideal world every child that was conceived would stay with its biological parents and live happily ever after. The most important thing is having someone to care for them...
     
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    Go **** yourself, clever or righteous, I'm just expressing my opinion on something that should be logical to most people, whilst pointing out certain poster's homophobia and stupidity.
     
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  15. EDGE

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    A visionary
     
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  16. DevAdvocate

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    As I said, a "B". <ok>
     
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  17. EDGE

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    "Oh Maltese, let me give my arse to you to ****"

    Pathetic and Gay.

    P&G
     
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  18. Toby

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    Edge, rep should be used to show you agree with someone <ok>
     
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  19. Toby

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EDGE again.

    Can't ever give you any :(
     
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  20. EDGE

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    I took a High court super Injunction against the reppers. <ok>
     
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