Harry Redknapp to be named manager within 3 weeks

Yep Rose came from Leeds' Academy.

 

Should not worry to much,insider info says that if QPR loose at the W/E
Harry is the Rangers new manager,on a short term optional contract.

 

He may not have had 'a budget' (though why did he need one? That squad was good enough to survive by itself), but spending 2.5million on Quashie was still our 3rd or 4th most expensive signing ever, at the time.

 

Here's another question: if 'Arry goes to QPR, will you guys be more, or less, worried?

 

Well we're playing them in just over 3 weeks so the new manager effect will still be in force. Yes, a bit more worried I suppose. Long term, not really.

 

More. I like Hughes, but he really is underachieving with that current squad. Although I can't be easy having to deal with, I imagine, a whole sackful of different egos.

But Harry + money + ageing players + short term fix + big squads + (I assume) total and utter club focus on the first team = survival.

Either way, Harry surely can't do any worse. Like I say, that squad should never be bottom.

 

If this happened I would never set foot in St Marys whilst he is in charge. It is very simple. It would also go against everything Cortese has said he is trying to acheive at Southampton.

 

I wasn't suggesting that he had anything to do with these players development and I wasn't commenting on their quality.

I was merely responding to 2 posts saying that Redknapp would stifle the development of your youngsters.

The fact is, Redknapp gave the West Ham boys their debuts all when they were teenagers. They may have been outstanding prospects but surely this just adds weight to my argument that if a player is good enough then Redknapp will play them regardless of age.

Livermore and Rose. Ok not great players. But still good young prospects that Redknapp brought into the first team setup. So what if Rose was from Leeds academy? Did I say he came through the Spurs ranks? No. I just said he was a young player that Redknapp gave first team football.

And the fact that he gave Walcott his debut is relevant, because he was just a kid who Redknapp saw potential in.

You seem to be arguing against points I didn't make. I do not think Redknapp was crucial to these players development. Just that he doesn't ignore youth players whatsoever as had been earlier implied, but actually brings them into the first team fold more so than many other managers.

 

But Cortese is facing a challenge and the reality of football , he either wants to pay to stay in this League or he does not , black and white , its as simple as that , if we are to stay in this division we will need to spend a lot of money , either he will or he wont .

 

You would stop attending games because your club would have shown ambition and appointed a top manager with bags of premier league experience who would give you almost guaranteed premier league football for the duration of his tenure?

How dramatic. A few wins and he would have you all eating from the palm of his hand.

 

No mate for me at least it is a question of HR's morals.......I gave my ST up as quickly the last time he came. I did not renew it until after he had gone. Nor did I attend any games while he was in charge. As soon as he was gone I renewed my Season ticket that despite the mess we were in. (As a vast number of others were doing the same as a protest against Lowe)
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't look out for my beloved Saints just that I would not attend while he was in charge.
He could get us into the Champion league final it would not make any difference......That should show you how much I dislike the man.

 

who would give you almost guaranteed premier league football for the duration of his tenure

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He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

 

You've hit the nail on the head as to why he is poor at bringing through young players. He will only play them if he thinks they are better than what he already has. There are very few players who by their late teens are good enough for a Premiership first team, but there are a lot more who could be good enough to become Premiership players if their development is properly done. I don't think Redknapp does this, and only as you say, puts young players in "if they are good enough".

 

According to you NC picks the team so the manager is irrelevant!

 

It is not funny, if you go for him please don't bring him back, can I suggest your thinking is flawed? I am probably out on a limb here but that is the way I feel about him.

 

On the subject of Redknapp, I found this very interesting 'reappraisal' of him by a Spurs fan from May 2011 (when he was still at Spurs and they had just finished 5th in the league) which I would urge you all to read: http://www.youllwinnothingwithyids.com/2011/05/harry-redknapp-reappraisal.html

It's a very interesting snapshot of Spurs' history of the time, and I think it's a fair and insightful analysis of his strengths and weaknesses. The bit about his interactions with fans is fascinating, but most telling, I think, is this passage (emphasis mine):

 

'Shudders with fear'

 

I know a few Spurs fans and all of them didn't rate Redknapp, mainly for the reasons highlighted in that article. The general consensus among them was that Redknapp was doing OK no better, and in the last season was extremely poor. But on the flipside most Spurs fans I've come across are pretty deluded about where their club should be, so 5th to a majority of them is failure.

 

Kids of the class of Walcott, Cole, Carrick, Ferdinand etc presumably stand out head and shoulders above the rest in the youth team. It's not difficult therefore for managers to pick them.

The managers didn't develop them, they didn't see potential that no-one else saw, they didn't go out of their way to bring them into the club. They just happened to be the first team manager at the time that these sensational young kids were ready for first team football. Right place, right time. They don't deserve credit for that. Even more so when they move on to other clubs, and the amount of kids they place suddenly falls through the roof.

I've said for a long time now, that one if his biggest faults at Portsmouth was not looking towards the youth team. Neither using it, nor developing it. He'd rather bring in ready-made players. And by and large, the exact same thing was the case at Spurs. Even with us, he waited until we were relegated to play Walcott. Not a single kid to my knowledge did he play whilst we were in the PL.

 

Yeah, Redknapp has his favourite players and is very stubborn regarding who he plays. A player can be really good, but if he wasn't signed by him, chances are he'll be disinclined to play them unless he really has to.

Also he does **** all in terms of developing a team's youth policy (West Ham aside). We had no youth players come up during the time he was here with us and once he left, Begovic and Wilson quickly broke into the first team. Furthermore, look at Tottenham: young promising players like Andros Townsend, Jay Emmanuel Thomas and that Mexican dude (Carlos Vela? Or something like that) are loaned out and then eventually sold. I've read a lot about Southampton aiming to get a good proportion of their first team being home-grown, if Harry Redknapp takes over you can pretty much say goodbye to that idea.