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A couple of Adebayor/Defoe articles

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Ghoddle10, Oct 21, 2012.

  1. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    What I should have said is that he hasn't tweeted anything in nearly 3 weeks, so his attitude could have changed in that time.
     
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  2. The Mighty Thor

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    SDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Yes it easily could have changed,I don't really read the tweets.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The whole thing's utter drivel.
    He didn't have a pre-season, as we pissed about with his signing forever with City, then he joined up and got almost instantly injured.
    Why would he be pissed off with Villas-Boas?

    It's the same raft of bullshit that we've seen by the same ****s at the same papers.
    The Fail constantly lie about the club, which has been very well demonstrated this season and Redknapp works for The Sun, so they're pissed that he's out of the loop.
     
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  4. SpursDisciple

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    Despite TMT's exasperation at me for missing a #cough# small detail #cough# I do think 2.5 weeks is not, in all seriousness, a long enough time to have gone from being so positive to apparently so negative. Therefore I agree with PNP that it is all BS. Say what you will about Twitter, but at least it is his own words.
     
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  5. Ghoddle10

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    I suspect there is some fire behind the smoke screens, I refuse to believe that Ade wasn't pissed off at being ignored on Saturday. In fact if he wasn't, that might be even more worrying, that he was past caring and happy with his vast pay cheque.

    I assume he is our top paid player, and it is strange to think that he can't get a start. I won't say that AVb made a mistake on this one, because it was a tough call. I do think he got the call wrong though, and probably Ade should have started instead of Dempsey.

    However, if Ade doesn't start v Maribor, something is surely amiss.
     
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  6. redwhiteandermblue

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    Every high level starter for a high profile team who doesn't start ignites a spate of very predictable articles in the SunFail. Of course, no doubt, in some cases the player is seriously disaffected, and in some, but only some, of these cases, the team may suffer down the road. But considering you can't trust the articles at all, it amounts to a bunch of non-news.

    I'm an Ade fan, but the truth is Defoe's been playing well in AVB's system, and if I were him, I'd have trouble dropping him. 4-4-2 doesn't look like a great option either. It's just not AVB's style, but it has the virtues of allowing Ade and Defoe to play, and of not playing Gylfi and Dempsey who haven't taken the bull by the horns so far.
     
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  7. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    No one saw Defoe hitting form like this again after his year or so of poor fitness and lack of form.

    Defoe is one of the best strikers in the league when on form, and you should continue to play him while he's scoring goals. One of the best finishers in the prem.
     
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  8. redwhiteandermblue

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    His goal against Chelsea was brilliant, and trashes the idea he can't score big goals in big games. What's impressed me most is how hard he's worked and how well he's been tracking back. We've been scoring goals by getting the ball to our fast players and shooting before the defense has time to get set. It's been working well, with Defoe in particular thriving, but doesn't involve holding up the ball, which is one of the two things Ade does well. Don't get me wrong. Ade would be effective as the lone striker in this system, but Defoe's been very good so far.
     
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  9. Ghoddle10

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  10. No Kane No Gain

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    This situation happens all the time at clubs, it's just that the papers are looking for anything they can scrape together that they can . It's only a problem if either Ade doesn't accept the situation which would be his fault, he played most of last season as a lone striker and it was obvious we'd be doing the same this season so I'd be very surprised if he was unhappy with AVB.
     
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  11. Ghoddle10

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    I'd be surprised if he wasn't unhappy with AVB, but it's quite difficult to call Ade. Most players of his quality would be massively unhappy to be sat on our bench, but maybe he doesn't mind.

    Hopefully he'll start tomorrow, play well and then what? Chapter xyz of the never ending saga I guess.
     
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  12. No Kane No Gain

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    Being unhappy with being sat on the bench is different to being unhappy with AVB though. Every player wants to start but as long as the team is picked on a fair basis they have no reason to be upset with the manager.
     
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  13. PleaseNotPoll

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    How could he possibly be unhappy with not starting?
    He's had no pre-season and then got injured, so why would he expect to start the first game he's available for?
    Hopefully he'll get a decent run out against Maribor, along with Lloris, Dawson, Naughton, etc.
     
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  14. notsosmartspur

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    Tbf, he came to us from City in the first place with no football and training with kids. He only sat out a game or two, it seemed to work for him and us then. Its more worrying AVB can't see his all round game benefits us. He brought other players into the game who scored VdV, Bale etc. Defoe brings no-one into the game but himself, other than the odd occasion.
     
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  15. Ghoddle10

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    Fair comments YV, but many players being benched tend to be unhappy with the manager as it's him that picks the team

    It just depends on how fair AVB is, and how he's percieved to be by Ade. I don't know on that score, I doubt anyone on here does.

    However, AVB has already shown himself to be unfair over another 'nameless player' so once you start going down that road, you're bound to lose a lot of trust. I certainly don't trust AVB any more.
     
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  16. totsfan

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    Rubbish,he's not being unfair,he is being sensible,about what games to play him into the team
     
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  17. Ghoddle10

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    Easily, because he's a quality player who played a full game for Togo, the week before Chelsea and scored. He'd been on some special training regime before that. If he wasn't fit enough to start against Chelsea, why wasn't he.

    If he wasn't in better shape than Dempsey after all his travelling, why wasn't he.

    Lloris doesn't need a decent run out against Maribor BTW, he needed to have been playing against Chelsea, and probably so did Dawson and Ade on the nature of Dempsey's and Galls' performance.

    Though I can see why Gallas started, so I don't have a beef about that, I'm just a big Daws fan, and like him better than WG..
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Adebayor's started one game this season and not been available to start virtually every other tie.
    Defoe's on form, scoring and improving with the system all the time.
    Even when he came on Adebayor looked far from sharp, which is exactly what I'd expect to see from someone who's had no preparation and no games.
    Scoring against Gabon is not the same as scoring against Chelsea, unfortunately.

    Why's he behind Dempsey in fitness? Because Dempsey's played more, as he's been available for more games, because he didn't get injured.
    Not Adebayor's fault, but there's no way that he should be expecting to start league games as soon as he's available for selection after a relatively long time out, especially with Defoe scoring regularly.
     
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  19. Boss

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    If you write down Lloris & Adebayor on one side & Freidal & Defoe on the other, then be honest, which side has the greater talent?

    This is why i can see gh10's point of view as he wants our most talented players in the team.

    However Defoe has been in superb form and is making it hard for AVB to drop or rotate him & Freidal is still a top keeper and makes few errors, yet I think if we can get Lloris, verts, dembele, bale & adebayor all fit and in the same starting 11 then we can step up another gear,
     
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  20. totsfan

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    i can see his point to,but what he ignores is both Friedal & Defoe are in form and playing well,Ade is'nt match fit,and Lloris,is still getting used to our style of play,so he has to play selected games at the moment
     
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