Sunderland Fans Behaviour

Got to say I don't approve of the Steven Taylor songs, but we weren't exactly innocent with the song about Cattermole and Jimmy Saville. Do think they should get their allocation cut for the derby at Newcastle though. We do through there.

 

You're missing my point! there was trouble this time, a youth attacked harps and their fans rushed the away end the season before that after Gyna scored with his arse.

The line in the sand needs drawing with this lot.

No getting away with i anymore or next who knows?

 

I infrequently post on the Sunderland board and have only ever once posted on yours (that was for a steer for a mates stag night in Newcastle) so please accept that I send this post in a spirit of honesty...

I was sat at about the half way line on the same side as the coaching teams (can`t work out if that if east or west!) - MON saying he couldn`t hear the Taylor chants is crap - I could, and I have no doubt he could.

Were those chants in bad taste - of course they were. Were those chants meant literally - course they weren`t (on occasions there was a song about Sunderland being the best team in the world!) - they were a consequence of the comments made by Taylor before the game. He must have expected some sort of a backlash.

I also heard the "Jimmy Saville" chant but could not make out the words (please share anyone) - on any basis a bit sick but, not towards us more towards his victims.

Golf balls (if that was what they were) ban anyone who threw them (or indeed anything else) - I assume you guys would reciprocate if the same happened at SJP.

Racist remarks aimed at Ba/Rose - anyone concerned gets a ban

My biggest worry from the day though (other than our performance!) was the reaction of about 20 or so from our side when after you scored a couple (bloke mid 40's and his Mrs) celebrated quite mildly - the 20 Sunderland fans became immediately verbally very aggressive and I have to say on the edge of violent. On occasions I go to away games with the wife, we tend to sit in the "safe" (i.e. family ish) type sections of the home ground (i.e. not with the travelling lot)... I thought that the sort of intimidation I witnessed had finished; I have a couple of Mag mates and would not want them to face the aggression that our lot threw at the bloke and his wife - we all love our clubs but ffs we need to learn that its a game of ****ing football...I was ashamed.

See you at SJP - last time I was at a derby game there - as a student - got a ticket in the gallowgate and we went one nil up (I sat on my hands!)

 

I largely agree, except for the point about golf balls. If they were thown (which I gather they were) then that is a fairly low point in recent Premiere League fan behaviour. I appreicate that every club has its idiots, but most of those idots stop short of throwing things at opposing players.

 

I'd like to say that a Sunderland supporter could celebrate a derby goal at SJP without getting grief, but I am not sure that I would be telling the truth. I see other teams supporters in the home seats regularly without getting any aggro, but I don't know if that would hold true on derby day.

 

Wow, that's quite an admission to make but good for you!
I've sat at one or two away games with the home side, and to be honest I would have done so at the weekend if it was the only way I could get a ticket.
I was Old Trafford with my husband last season, we were with the home supporters, (none of them around us were local), my husband had drummed it into me, 'If we score don't cheer',
bit of a joke really, I'm pretty quiet anyway.
As it happens, Wayne Rooney fouled Colodccini and stamped on him right in front of us,Mr LTF leapt to his feet, (he's got a loud voice) he screamed unrepeatable abuse at Rooney, the whole terrace heard', the men beside us just laughed it off, as we were leaving one of them said they'd videoed him and were putting it on youtube, I've never been able to find it though!

 

Good for Mr LTF. Tash can probably find a video of it somewhere.

 

a very considered post. I salute you sir.

 

We don't believe you!

 

I'd love to say you'd be ok sat in the home end on derby day, having a little celebration if you scored, but you really wouldn't! Maybe amongst the posh seats you'd get minimal abuse. I have to say the Saylor death chants etc were not really a big deal to me. Chanting tongue in cheek slightly sick chants has gone on for a while. Most of them I have no problem with. I wouldn't condone them or sing them myself but I would struggle to be up in arms about it.

Wishing him dead is not nice but I think its far worse what Dave Jones gets at most grounds up and down the country. That is really personal. Wishing him dead tongue in cheek wouldn't bother Saylor or his family, they know the crack and that its not really meant. He knew when he made the wind up remarks in the paper that it would not go unanswered. He was baiting them, they took the bait.

Chucking stuff into the field of play and racist chanting is not acceptable for me. Bans as you say are the only justifiable remedy for those folk.

How was that stag night by the way?

 

To be fair I'm sick of derby days. They bring out all the mongs who probably only attend one game a year. They should play this game behind closed doors for me for a short while, for the numpty above who called me self-righteous, no mate I'm simply providing a bullet point assessment of your fans behaviour (see the national media for the full write up). It's sick and the Stevie Taylor chants which started as one pocket of fans soon started ringing right round the stadium which to me suggests decent minded people embraced that mob mentality and consciously supressed their better judgement.

Divs are divs but these are the people that should know better and that is why your club has been rightly slated in the press.

 

Got to say I agree with a lot of yellowbelly's post, however if any Newcastle fan got beaten up for celebrating the goal while in the Sunderland end I would have no sympathy for them. You either make sure you keep you emotions right or don't do go in the opposing end. I'm sure yellowbelly keeps hold of his emotions well when he's sat in the opposing end.

 

can you please get it into your thick heeds that there was no golf balls thrown, it was actually rolled up paper. And there was no racist chanting, the allegation is directed against one person making one comment.
As for the other chants, I would argue that none of us can take the moral high ground as both were as bad as each other..

 

Here come the sunshine bus invaders trying to defend all they've done wrong...........

 

Just stating facts to combat all the bull**** pouchy boy..

 

I thought you didn't visit these parts? Now get back to your own board and take your golf balls with you Tiger

 

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrooooonnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg. It's precisely a bunch of low lives, just in a crowd of the decent sort that we can be proud to say we mix with on evenings and at work. That small batch (that every well supported club retain) have the ability to ruin it for the rest, and the lads that have enjoyed the game and the craic are not being targeted in these posts, so what MRAWhite is gushing on about I don't know... If he's trying to condemn the association, then fair play, but I think there's a few of his fellow fans on here who have done a much better job

 

By the way, and this is totally off topic (I think), why would anyone assume it was "golf balls"? Was there a robbery at the the nearest sporting good store (probably best asking a Toon fan, Mackem's might not know what a sport is the way their past few managers have set-up ) just before the match? Does Sunderland have a middle-class now? If so, are they allowed to sit on a seat which isn't pink?