We deserved a win, but I'm happy with the point - My thoughts on the game

The list of referee errors is huge. Has Larsson been to see some gypsy which means he is allowed to use his hands in derbies but the ref won't notice. There was clear movement towards the ball, blatant pen. The playing advantage stuff was hilarious as Freddd says! I never want Atkinson again, its not the first time he has given us jack ****. You really would think he was on the take after yesterdays comedy showing, but its probably just a case of taking the easy way out with the home side.

 

Anyone else notice how McClean got away constantly with hacking our players down and we rarely if ever got a free kick for it. Not to mention the way how Ba was getting pulled all game and we never got a free kick and the mackems are complaining that they were hard done by.

 

I hope you are joking. They should be asking for Atkinson on a weekly basis!

 

Just a little .

 

I wondered about the validity of being able to show a red card. Maybe I'm getting the rules of the game wrong here, but 2 seconds before Tiote gets his red, the play has been stopped for a foul on Tiote, yes? So I thought that, as the game had technically been stopped, players cannot be then disciplined for an on the ball incident. Sure, if it's violent conduct or dissent then the ball does not have to be in play - but as that passage of football should not have even occurred, doesn't that invalidate the card?

Was never a red anyway, but then the annual degradation of refereeing ability is in full effect. The two corners-that-never-were for either side were just staggering. Then you head from the North East down to Loftus Road, and at least the standard of officiating stays consistent...

 

So that makes Shearer, Pardew, and Mick McCarthy complete tarts then.

Personally thought it was harsh my point was if it was Cattermole you would all e crying your eyes out if it wasn't red.

 

If Cattermole did that I would say it was harsh. It was mentioned before another thread that Cattermole's discipline has improved and that Tiote needs to look to get the same help with it as Cattermole did, otherwise IMO he is no use to us what so ever.

 

No they just took a complete tarts view of the offence. I have no doubt "some" not all would have vilified Cattermole in the same situation (I wouldn't personally). Fletcher is a pansy though, and made all the protestations about Cheik last year look a little bit hollow and seen through tinted specs.

To be honest some of the stuff written has been quite amusing about Tiote. I've seen the words "studs up", "knee high", "stamp" and a variety of other poorly chosen words to describe the tackle. Lets be clear, he kicked him (late) with the inside of his boot on the shin! Hardly anything to cry about and do three thousand rolls. Its all good fun and what makes a derby a derby.

We're meant to argue until the next one about the details.

 

Pardew didn't say it was red-worthy, he said "touch and go" as a neutral, which translates as "I don't want to have to sit in the stands again playing pac-man after the whole pushing the assistant ref debacle" ...
Shearer and McCarthy are tarts though!

As I said on another thread, if Cattermole/anyone made that tackle, I'd say yellow was fair. Of course, I'd not complain too much if the opposing team got a soft dismissal, but that's what you get when all the ref's collective idiocy can define a season.

Personally I thought Tiote seemed to be targeted for a red by the media and Sunderland, and once that association was made, any robust or ineffectual foul would be greeted with a red. That's just stupid, but it's affecting other areas of the game as well. Look at Suarez, the guy can't get a free-kick if the other guy is visibly impregnating him... If you're going to live on the edge of the rules, whether being a robust tackler or going down easily, you're going to be stung at some point depending on the directive in the FA HQ that week. Others are right, those players need to work with the FA and their clubs to make sure they can keep within the boundaries and still be effective.

 

The only place ALL footballers actually wear protection...







Judging by the amount of illegitimate off-spring they produce anyway

 

Fletcher was a bit over dramatic, but it was a case of Tiotes play acting coming back to bite him on the arse.

The reason we drag on about him play acting is that you have him down as this 'hard' man when he clearly isn't.

 

To be fair that was one incident, you lot claim Cattermole is a hard man and he cried on the pitch. Also think some of our lot have gone a bit over the top about Fletcher.

 

Sorry, but there's a big difference in what lead up to that though.

Tiote went down because Sess elbowed him in the face. It was pure petulance and he deserved to be sent off for it. It was violent conduct.

Tiote and Fletcher both went for the ball. Both players were fully committed, and Fletcher got there first, which mean Tiote's boot connected with Fletcher's leg. Both players went in full force for the ball. If Tiote had gotten there first, Fletcher could have been sent off as he smashed the ball full force. If Fletcher's kick had have connected with Tiote's leg, it could have been a red also.

It should have been a yellow, not a red.

Tiote is a tough cookie, and we call him hard because he is. If the only thing you can bring up to counter this, is Tiote going down after Sess' elbow, then you've not got a leg to stand on, because it was clear that Tiote wasn't hurt by the elbow, he just wanted to show to the ref that it was a red card offense.

 

Hahahaha. The difference being???

The hypocrisy shown on here hahahaha.

 

Tiote's was a yellow.

 

Ok, sure, we believe you.
Honest.

 

The incidents from our place last season and the Stadium of ****e this season are comparable for me. A player from either side has taken it upon themself to play act and roll round like a pansy. The difference is of course Sausagelovers was a red card, Tiotes should not have been. Just the way it goes and Cheik should not have taken the bait.

The most amusing thing of all is that the mackems moaned and whined something bad about Tiote, many claiming none of their players go on like that, only for Fletcher to do exactly the same and put egg on their faces!

 

tiote had won a freekick so y would he go in for a tackle if he had heard the whistle, the referee had a shocker and should of took a few seconds to think about it before brandishing a red card, which spoils games like that, all in all i think we played better and should of won but thats fotball.

 

John O'Shea looked embarrassed about it and said it wasn't a red, and that's your captain. But if it wasn't a red you can't play victims again can you.

 

Don't think I've seen many SAFC fans claim Cattermole is hard, tough tackling and being seen as a 'hard man' are two different things. Cattermole wouldn't have rolled around on the floor had he been hit in the chest being the difference.