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Anyone else anxious about Macca at Boro?

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  1. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    in the second half he also let a miscued skied clearance bounce in his own area instead of doing what every school boy is told to do in such circumstances when learning about row Z. he was lucky to get away with it on that occasion today, unlike the goal of course. but he did have another good day apart from the two standard Macca type errors, so i am again undecided.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    He screwed up for their goal(as did Rosie) and that's what you get from McShane, he's always going to make the odd ricket. He's brave and hard working, but he hasn't the ability of Chester or Faye, though I'd play him ahead of Bruce.
     
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  3. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Too be fair Chester has cost us more goals this season than Macca has. Macca is playing well and it sends out the wrong message to drop him imo.
    Its a long season and lets get what we can out of Macca whilst he is on his game. It must be a comfort to know that Chester is on the bench ready and waiting. For now lets stick with the lads who have won us 2 games on the bounce. They deserve it. Save Chester for the harder games coming up. imo.
     
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  4. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    yeah. we should keep our best player, chester on the bench for that simple little trip to boro, as awell as the 'doddle' at bristol!!!
     
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  5. lakesideview

    lakesideview Active Member

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    I wouldn't play him ahead of Bruce OLM, Bruce has a much calmer head on him and would have made the tackle for the goal as he has two or three times already with good last ditch blocks this season.
     
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  6. tigers40

    tigers40 Well-Known Member

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    There has always been a whipping boy with City supporters. I can go back to the late 50s and every season the supporters always had a marked man. It didnt matter if he was mom for a number of games on the trot, once the whipping boy always the whipping boy. My view is that when he plays at centre back he is a very good player. There was no doubt that he made a lot of mistakes when playing wide on the back 4 but I cant ever remember him letting us down at centre back. But how ever well he plays, it wont be enough for the boo boys and Im afraid Macca is stuck with that.
     
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    GLP Well-Known Member

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    Excellent point well made Sunn. Don't forget McLean - he has more than his fair share of **** from 'fans'.
     
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  8. Hull City Wok Tiger

    Hull City Wok Tiger Active Member

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    This is spot-on, he will always get found out as he lacks the basics so has to over-compensate, that's why you get the constant mistakes. There's a difference between getting away with it and being in control on the pitch. We will always be vunerable when he plays as the oppo coaching staff will know he is a liability and will exploit it.
     
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  9. mybrotherjake

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    Split second decision, both left sided defenders out of position and attacker running at full speed at you in the penalty area : stick or twist? He tried to make if difficult to score without giving away a penalty. I made him man of the match (again!)
     
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  10. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    Damien Delaney anyone?
     
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  11. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Spot on! Both Rosenoir and McKenna were in a better position to put a foot in and the lad waltzed through them both, but it's McShane gets the ****? He made himself wide and reduced the angle and (as you say) did not commit to a penalty - the rest was up to the GK and a well struck ball. Very harsh criticism of a player who had an excellent game. Why is it that he still gets **** on here for mistakes during the PL years - we had players who gave a damn sight less and were not played out of position, as he was.
     
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  12. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So we play 4-4-2 on Tuesday Chezz is now fully fit and your going to go with Mcshane!! Really.
     
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  13. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    I take it that's for me? Both Chezz and Macca are decent players, Macca is in a good run of form and we are winning - but why does playing Macca naturally exclude Chezz? Surely this is about having the luxury of options and making them work for you. As it happens, I would not have a duck-fit if Macca was dropped for Chezz (I have not said anywhere that I would), but I do believe the criticism of Macca is disproportionate and daft and I would easily understand the manager keeping him in the starting line-up - they call it rewarding performance.
     
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  14. beverleytiger

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    FFS some deluded bastards on here what is it your not content to allow a person praise because of his past! OK im ready to admit as well as the next man that mcshane has done some howlers in his time but why constantly bring it up? ok might not be on the same page but great players have royally ballsed things up in the bast on numerous ocasions, ronaldo missed an open goal the other week, not the first time, Mcshanes defensive play yesterday was second to none! Many people on here do not notice that Chester makes a mistake at least once a game, a ****e pass that goes to an attacker or a miss-timed tackle. THEY ALL MAKE MISTAKES! Has Mcshane made a MASSIVE howler this season? No. Has he been the worst player on the pitch for the past few matches? No. so why constantly get on his back? as a City player you should be getting behind him and praising him, not cutting him down when he puts in a great performance.

    Rant over.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Nah calm down Fez its for everyone. I've already posted it once on this thread.

    Youplay your best team when its available. Chezz is available, he plays. Likewise when Koren returns, he's in.
     
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  16. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Best team is a bit like beauty - in the eye of the beholder. I'll be very surprised if McShane is dropped at Boro, but managers can be hard to read; thankfully!
     
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  17. PLT

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    Except for Faye, Rosenior and Dawson of course.

    This season it's become really cool to point out when Chester makes a mistake, and equally cool to pretend McShane is doing way better than he is. I'm not denying that Chester has made errors, but they haven't been as big as McShane's and he's played way more games. His general play on the ball and when defending simple situations is absolutely streets ahead of McShane's. I don't see how people can't see it.
     
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  18. augustatiger

    augustatiger Well-Known Member

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    Is Chester fully fit?If so why on bench?
    Seems to me we have had a couple of stupid goals from free kicks given away in the right half position already this season for which the covering right back has been blamed.(McShane had to move across to cover Rosenior who was out of position) and then the Goal keeper gets beaten from an acute angle.
    Why is no one picking on Amos?
    Good in the air but is he beaten too often on the ground?
     
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  19. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    Picking on players is a tad negative, unless they have shown a reasonable run of the same fault - that's not the case with Amos, as of yet; but I agree that there has been too little comment on the way in which the final ball hit the net when compared to McShane's role in dealing with piss-poor defence from Rosenoir and McKenna. We must also never undermine the excellent performance of the guy who scored - but he should have been stopped before McShane, perhaps McShane could have lunged to get a foot in (far more chance of a penalty and more justified criticism), but certainly, the goal was saveable. It just seems easier for some to blame the whipping boy.
     
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  20. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Perfect example of mcshanes quality at centre back - Ricardo fuller - say no more <laugh>

    McShane has been doing well recently but I wouldn't be ****ing over him yet. Also thought he showed his limited ability against Wednesday when Antonio turned him inside out time after time and had the better of both him and rosenior all game long, had he had his shooting boots on he could have had a few hat tricks with the amount of times he was allowed to cut in to shooting positions.

    That goal on Saturday all 4 of the culprits are equally at fault, they all had as good a chance at stopping it as the others and the fact it went in is an absolute travesty, it was tragic! And that has to void any of their chances at being man of the match...
     
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