best and weakest full strength midfield

Right, to put in simple terms, lets say Ron Jeremy is the worlds greatest pornstar. If he suddenly becomes a monk, then surely someone else would inherit the worlds greatest pornstar tag, as he would no longer be a pornstar.

Yaya, as he's not a DM now, can't be the best Dm, as he's no longer a DM.

 

Your example means nothing as Yaya Toure has hardly retired from football, unless i've missed something

 

No, he's stopped playing as a DM, he is strictly a box to box midfielder, not just a boring typical DM.

 

Is Messi the best right winger in the world?

 

No.

 

No. Messi doesn't have a position, he's given a free role. Messi is the best everything, not just pigeonholed to one area.

 

Who is better than Messi?

 

underestimate Everton at your peril

 

Fellaini is better than Arteta as well

 

naah don't really rate fellaini though i know im in a minority. Evertons do really have a good mifield though still not sure it compares to others not to mention there don't seem to be many fans on this forum. I would put it in this order

toure
ramnirez
arteta/lucas
tiote
carrick
sandro

They're all very good but thats just my opinon.

 

I'm suprised that Aresnal fans don't think that Toure is a top DM even though he has all the attributes that Vieira had

 

Correct.

 

Huge difference between thinking someone is playing better than someone at the moment, than not thinking he's top class.

 

Sigh

 

None of you Arsenal fans would make a good scout if you cant see that Toure is better in every midfield position. It's all about attributes that players bring to the table. In a DM role Toure has much more than Arteta

 

So I know you love stats here so by Arsenal fan logic these are the best stikers in the Prem right now;

Robin van Persie
Demba Ba
Michu
Steven Fletcher
Edin Dzeko
Luis Suarez
Fernando Torres
Peter Crouch
Rickie Lambert
Nikica Jelavic

So if it's all about stats these are the top 10 scorers in the prem, so they must be the best 10 strikers right?

No Arsenal players in sight ohh dear

 

You're still here? As you can see we said AT THE MOMENT. AT THE MOMENT. And once so you can understand AT THE MOMENT. SO if you want to use that criteria then they are the best AT THE MOMENT. Anyway consider this conversation done as I'm sure you'll find some bullshit to say.

 

Your only saying the conversation is done as you know i'm right and don't want to admit it. So you Crouch, Lambert, Michu and Lambert would start for Arsenal right now?

 

I know stats aren't everything, but his performances also back up his stats.

 

Wow, lots of replies last night. The way some of you opposition fans can't understand basic English is mind-boggling. Toure is not a defensive midfielder at the moment so he can't be the best defensive midfielder at the moment. I even put it in bold text in anticipation of this argument...

Someone asked for my stats. I posted them before on this forum, but here we go again:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...est-holding-midfielder-in-the-world-right-now

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Statistical breakdown

*League only	Tackles	Interceptions	Pass completion (%)
Mikel Arteta  	  4.6	     2.4	   93.8
John Obi Mikel	  2.3	     1.7	   90.5
Michael Carrick	  1.4	     1.4	   88.8
Mohamed Diame	  3.6	     1.1	   84.1
Cheick Tiote	  2.5	     1.3	   82.4