Article: What if there was a European super league?......Further on from the other thread | Football Southampton

Assuming Joe that you know of the biggest teams in Europe (it appears you dont) of Worldwide support then you have missed lots of them out on purpose .

 

I did my research mate. Each of those teams is most or second most popular in it's country. Who do you think I've missed out (without over-representing any country)?

 

Why the teams that leave would have nothing to do with us , it would be an effective split . A revolution of sorts whereby we could sort out the unequals and make it fairer , we would still have a united English team and transfers between these sides (there would be a limit) , we could even have our own European competition , the Champions League is hardly the champions is it ? Loose confederation designed to last as long as possible and to take as much money as possbile , why would they have it this way ? Not many Champions win it .

 

Chelsea
PSV
Feyenoord
Anderlecht
Leon
Rangers
Hamburg
Schalke
Stuttgart
Werder Bremen
Napoli

 

So now we are making two leagues not one super league at all? This is getting worse and worse.......so why not three or even four......where do you stop?
Can you not see what this would do to local football for the likes of Saints, Pompey, Reading, Brighton and Bournemouth. Three of those five would not survive.
It is no good saying so what, those teams provide entertainment of sorts to their individual supporters. At the moment there is a gleam of hope that in theory with in four years they could be playing the best in Europe (the top teams of the English league). With a chance of causing an upset in any of the cups.
That is what all fans hope for and believe can happen. With a super league or leagues assuming an invitational intoduction to these leagues/league.
They have no hope of playing with or against the best. Interest in football would reduce considerably. Yes you would have a few die hard fans but nothing even remotely on the scale of the present day.
Sorry for me it would be the finish to a degree of my beloved game in this country...........

 

Chelsea - Nowhere near as popular worldwide as United or Liverpool, and I didn't want to choose more than two teams from one country.

PSV - Not particularly good, and not nearly as popular as Ajax.

Feyenoord - Same as above.

Anderlecht - Not very good, not many supporters.

Leon - You mean Lyon? I considered them, but found they have the same amount of supporters as Marseille (9.4m), and I chose Marseille because I think they're slightly better, and PSG because of their enormous wealth and very good team. However, I admit it was a toss-up between Lyon and Marseille.

Rangers - Come back to me when they're not 4th in Scottish Div. 3. They'd be bent over and pulverised by most teams I've mentioned.

Hamburg - Not as big or good as Bayern or Dortmund.

Schalke - Same as above

Stuttgart - Same as above

Werder Bremen - Same as above

Napoli - AC Milan and Juventus are far more popular and probably better as well.

 

Well I can see those same sentiments said by Bournemouth in 1992...........
We left them , we left Rochdale as well , we left them all for the pursuit of World wide coverage , this is only extending it to those who want it , I am talking about taking awnership of our own game again , I am not concerned for a Worldwide audience to watch our team .
Why would teams die , did they die before the advent of the premiership ? No they did not , did they all have European football ? No they did not , would we be able to run our own affairs and on a far fairer basis ? Yes we would .

 

No. You've got the Champions League, which is the European Super League and it works very well as it is. It has the dual advantages that: a) it doesn't compete with the domestic game but rather complements it and b) any team playing in Europe can theoretically work their way up through the domestic leagues and play in the Champions League.

The one change I'd make to the Champions League is to allow the winners to defend it regardless of their performance in the domestic league and give that country's domestic league an extra slot. Basically what happened when Liverpool won the Champion's League, but finished 5th in the Premiership.

 

Sorry for leon this bollocks system I should know as well as some of my relations are from there , I am not talking about the best I am talking about the most supported in the World , Rangers are certainly there , this is about money and exposure nothing more , why have they expanded the ChampionsLeague ? Nothing to do with the quality simply more exposure , the ChampionsLeague has got worse not better as more crap teams have been allowed to make up the League system .

 

How many Champions League places have been won by English sides ?
Liverpool
United
City
Everton
Leeds
Blackburn
Arsenal
Spurs
Newcastle

Now take out the usual suspects the lists is not that long and the others have only made sporadic appearances , its boring .

 

Do you honestly think that ? There is no way a team can work their way up like they used to , not at all , not a chance .

 

Well I am talking about finding a balance between most support, best finances, best footballing ability, and representing all the top nations. Rangers have the support, but they don't have the finances or the quality, and they would be demolished by the top sides. Like I said, I didn't want to pick more than two from each nation, and Lyon have no more support than Marseille, and PSG win for wealth and probably for footballing ability as well.

Feel free to tell us who you would pick based on support alone, but I don't think that's how it should be done. I really think it should be partially based on how good they are.

 

Well it would be done by what team would have the most tv support , nothing to do with the romatic notion of fairness , do you think thats how its done now ? Why not solely have the Champions in the ChampionsLeague as we used to ?
Money , nothing more nothing less . let them have their League and we can have our own back with a far more competitive and open League , this is crap .

 

If there was a European Super league, all the TV money will go with it. What's left of the Premier League will become Championship level at best. As for the SPL. That, I think would fall to the level of the Welsh Premier League within a few years.

Not that that would bother the greedy clubs with their noses in the trough.

 

And whats wrong with the Championship level ? Far better league than the EPL , more open and exciting , as for talent in the prem its not as if its Englsih either benefitting our National side is it ? Only 35% English are in there compared to 50% in Italy and 70% in Spain .
This would actually improve our National team as the players would be actually getting game time .

 

All the teams I picked would get a lot of TV interest. Rangers aren't among the 20 most supported clubs in Europe (nor are Celtic for that matter), but Zenit, Wisla Krakow, CSKA, Galatasaray, Fenerbahce and Marseille all are.

 

A lot of teams did die from the 60's onwards as more and more was trimmed from the pyramid of teams. At first when the Premier was formed money could still be moved about all season through transfers fees etc. The amount going to the lower echelons of the league was reduced even further but the transfer system offset that to a degree as you could sell a player when things got bad. As the TV money got bigger so the top teams share got bigger and the minnows got smaller and smaller. Then when the transfer windows came into being that finished off a lot of the small clubs.
That is why I say the forming of a another type league in addition to what we have will be detrimental. History of our football system backs me on this..........

 

I think you will find Celtic and Rangers are easily in that bracket , the motives behind their support is a nationalistic/unionist/loyalist/republican/gloryhunter/cling on nature but the support is there , Rangers took well over 100,000 fans to Manchester for the UEFA Cup final in 2008 and Celtic in Seville took over 50,000 breaking records , their motives for supporting them are questionable but their support for their repsective teams are pretty much unsurpassed .

 

Would you like some proof? http://thekartikreport.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/what-are-europes-most-popular-football-clubs/

1. Barcelona
2. Real Madrid
3. Man Utd
4. Chelsea
5. Zenit
6. Liverpool
7. Arsenal
8. Milan
9. Bayern
10. Juventus
11. CSKA
12. Inter
13. Lyon
14. Marseille
15. Galatasaray
16. Spartak Moscow
17. Fenerbahce
18. Wisla Krakow
19. Ajax
20. Dinamo Moscow

Can't argue with facts. Those are the 20 most supported clubs in Europe, based on rankings of fans throughout the continent.

Dinamo Moscow (that's the 3rd most popular team in Moscow!) are recorded as having 5.7m supporters. That's higher than the population of Scotland.

 

Thats not proof at all It is estimated that Celtic and Rangers have 10 Million supporters worldwide , I have been to a Celtic supports club in Miami and a Rangers supporters club in Central Otago , I doubt Moscow clubs of any nature have that pull in fact I know they dont .