Article: What if there was a European super league?......Further on from the other thread | Football Southampton

You already have your super league it's called a champions league....Why do you need to go further? You already have the top teams in Europe competing in that. What would you gain...nothing. Other than of course a few other teams perhaps might be included who are not doing particularly well at the moment. (Liverpool, Rangers ETC) Surely it would be ludicrous to change things to a few elite clubs through out Europe.
Barry....you say there is a pyramid structure now.....but just look at it, it is very compact! Probably less than 10% of revenue from TV goes down the Pyramid to the base. By the time it gets to the base it is next to nothing now. The premier league would eventually get what the championship gets and so on down the scale. Div 2 would probably get nowt. How on earth can that help our football development. Do we say to the Oxfords or Accrington Stanleys. "That's tough boys but that's the way the cookie crumbles" Would there be justice in that? No, No, No a thousand times no!!

 

It is a garbage idea, but be careful with statements like this. Since when did the fact that a huge majority didn't want something prevent it happening?

 

The European competitions are nothing to do with the English FA , they would have sort out their own finances with UEFA , the FA would now along with the PremierLeague (if it would remain) wpuld divide a far fairer proportion of tv rights to all the clubs , not solely the large ones with large followings .

Do you think this League is fair ? Honestly is it fair and getting fairer ? Is it ****e , Crawley Town are an example of how it works nowadays , money . Look at all the ex full League members in a perilous state ?
This system could make all clubs prosper and have a hope of attaining something , football is awful and sterile at the moment , the thing is though we are being told this through a hd tv 1080p on a speaker system so it sounds better than it is , not to mention Stasi like propaganda thrown at us consistently about how its the best League in the World .

 

How many wanted the PremierLeague ? I didn't , you only had to look at it for a moment to see it was designed for the big clubs to whore themselves to World market and not their own fellow clubs , what have we got from the PremierLeague ?

 

Most teams won't want it either, as probably only 2-3 English teams will be in it. Turkeys won't vote for Christmas. The only way it will happen is if a group of European teams unilaterally decide to leave their respective leagues. The rest of us will be left in our leagues as they stand...that will still be a large number of domestic fans for TV to be interested in. Probably carry on as before with the PL and FL being the main course with the European League being something occasionally watched by UK fans. The European League would rely on support from a wider range of countries round the world.

 

The difference was that the PL was a name changing excercise with greater independence for the top sides (for good or ill), but a European League would be an entirely different league.

 

Since demand dictated supply. If no one wants it to happen, then it's not going to be profitable for anyone.

 

It could be profitable, but would rely on marketing worldwide. In the UK, fans will continue to support their own clubs. Most of us only watch ManU and Chelsea when they play our team. I also watch when they are in the CL, but wouldn't be interested at all if they played a foreign side every week.

The only funny thing would be when supporters of so-called 'big clubs' realise that they are not included.

 

I would be delighted if they ****ed off , after all what have the big clubs ever done for us ? Nothing , they leech off the 85 others English clubs for their own European ambition , we are told they are our life blood I happen to think its the other way around , they need us for players to take on the cheap and then tell us in a patronizing tone its great money and you need this to survive , we are only in these ****ing situations because of the overpricing of players in the first place .

A merry go round of descent for the smaller , smallest and tiny clubs , who wins ? Well of course the big man with the aspiration not of winning a trophy but simply to continue to qualify for it (Arsenal) or to buy a glut of mercenaries to win the holy grail (Chelsea) , this is aint heaven , this aint hell , this is simply treading water which is worse .

 

Aside from all this, one big problem is that the big teams of today might not be the big teams of a few years time. Yes Man Utd have been there pretty much since the start of the Premier League (amazing achievement) but you only have to go back five years to find Man City finishing 14th in the Premier League, behind Blackburn, Pompey, Reading, Bolton, and Middlesbrough who they lost 8-1 to on the last day. Presumably Paris St Germain would be wanting to be part of your Super League but they haven't won the French league for 18 years. And who knows what football will look like in five years. You might feel like we are only here for the big teams to play against but as long as we beat them occasionally, that's fine by me.

 

Assuming this happens (and that's not certain), this will end up a closed shop with teams who are rich at the moment buying their way in. My bet ManU, Man City and Chelsea. If any teams in Scotland are invited in...Rangers and Celtic. On sheer logistics, however, not every country will be represented.

 

I am not too sure I agree with you on this GMI. Most of the top teams these days seem to rely on buying foreign imports. I would actually say young British talent comes at a bit of a premium (although 7m for Bale and 12.5m for OXO seem a bit of a steal now).

 

Don't agree with a word of that.

 

They can buy for whatever they want and just store a body (footballer) as long as he does not play for the other teams (Bridge,Walcott,Betrand,Sturridge) .

 

The biggest teams with Worldwide support in the UK are
United
Liverpool
Celtic
Rangers
Arsenal
Chelsea

They would be in it with City for sure .

 

Depends how big the league is. If it consists of only 20 teams, 6 wouldn't be from the UK.

 

I do agree with this.

 

I understand that the European competitions are nothing to do with the FA. Nor would the forming of a super league......but why would Europe try to bring in a super league to compete with their Champions league? Or even replace with...it would make no sense.
I cannot see your logic in saying clubs would prosper, the only ones that would prosper are the super league teams. Better than half of the teams in 1 & 2 would go out of existence.
When they formed the Premier they reduced a lot of money that use to go down the pyramid to the bottom clubs and over the years have continued to reduce it.
The same thing would happen if they formed a super league you would be very naive to think that it wouldn't happen in the same way over time. It would also restrict the number of top class players being given the chance to play at the highest level as there would not be so many English teams in the top league maybe between 4/6. Where as at the moment there is at least 18 clubs With about 20/25 English players playing at a high level. At best with 4/6 teams playing in the super league the most you are going to get playing at top level is maybe 10 or 12........Although agree that is all hypothetical and based on what happens in today's teams.
So cannot be convinced it is likely to aid our English football at all more likely harm it.......

 

Fair enough, I'll play along. Assuming this might actually happen (which it won't), and assuming I like the idea (which I don't), a league of 20 European teams, considering factors such as worldwide support, wealth, profitability and trying to evenly represent Europe's top footballing nations, would look something like this in my mind:

Manchester United
Liverpool
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Juventus
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Borussia Dortmund
Paris Saint-Germain
Marseille
Porto
Benfica
Ajax
Fenerbahce
Galatasaray
Shakhtar Donetsk
Celtic
Zenit St. Petersburg
CSKA Moscow
Wisla Krakow

Obviously I've missed out some pretty big teams there (Man City, Arsenal, Inter, Roma, Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Dynamo Kiev), but that's due to the fact that there are more popular/wealthy teams in their respective divisions, and I didn't want the league to be totally made up of England, Spain and Italy.

 

40 teams two divisions .