You seem to have brushed over banging your brothers wife=Giggs, using elderly ladies for perverted sex acts=Rooney, deliberately missing a drug test and making reference to a fellow players race and or skin colour=Ferdinand. Do you doubt any of the above are disgusting and detestable?, if so you're morally corrupt and cant accept there are far more detestable things done by footballers than the things you listed.
Page the point he was making is most of the players you can name have done one maybe 2 dodgy things on or of the pitch. Suarez sort of combines many which is quite a good point.
Nah, he described Suarez as 'detestable' for the reasons he listed, i merely pointed out his blinkered view on the player prevents him from seeing the bigger picture.
Fair enough. Its correct to suggest Suarez is so disliked because he combines a number of the worst qualities of a player into one though isnt it? Would you like him if he was say Chelseas player? ( wont say United, you are obliged to dislike them )
I dont know why he even bothers going down tbh. Even when he's fouled he doesn't get anything so whats the point in diving? Rodgers should be sorting him out and telling him stay on your feet, if you go down easy refs wont give you anything anyway.
There's dislike and there's rabid hate, Suarez appears to be in the 2nd category, there's some very detestable haters out there
I can't see how any non-Liverpool fan can like him, and some Liverpool fans must struggle. All teams have and/or have had players of questionable moral fibre but i've never encountered a player in the P.L who is such a little scum bag with so many bad traits. The constant diving The winding up of opposing players The whole Evra thing The hand ball at the World Cup The biting ban in Holland The harrassing of refs and assistants when a decision doesn't go his way (the fa cup final springs to mind) Shout me down Liverpool fans but if this was Downing doing all this I think the attitude would be different. Even Brendan has slagged of Downing pretty publically over perceived work rate yet defends the indefensiveable with Suarez.
Gtf indefensiveable? JT banging Bridges bird, charging visitors for guided tours of his employers property, racially abusing a fellow professional yet his club not sticking to their anti racism policy and sacking him. Or Graham Rix a convicted *****phile given a job at Chelsea the day after his release from prison. Two prime examples of defending the 'indefensiveable'
Why would the club sack Terry when he's been proven not guilty in Court. You lot know better than most about the FA and their mickey mouse procedures. Anyway, that doesn't make all of Suarez's actions alright. Perhaps a club of Liverpool's standing should be leading the way instead of moaning about witch hunts etc or just comparing to other players/clubs as a defence. Two honest questions: - 1. If all these actions were by a much lesser player, say Downing, would you still want him at your club? 2. If these action were by a non Liverpool player, say Rooney, would you defend him? As above, all clubs have players other clubs love to hate, but Suarez is in another league. Not anti Liverpool, anti Suarez.
1. Yes i believe i believe not wanting Downing at our club should be based on his football ability(or lack of it)and not based on a very debatable accusation of racial abuse or diving which many within the game as well as him do. 2. Why would i defend the actions of a player from another club?, but i cant defend Bales or(when he was at Chelsea)Drohgba's diving just like i'm not defending Suarez over diving, as for the race debate i saw like millions of others saw what JT said and there lies public opinion on his guilt and in the Suarez case there was no video evidence and only Evra's word.
I think regardless of video evidence though, most people believed what Suarez was alleged to have said given his general conduct on the field of play. I don't think Suarez is a racist but I do believe he was trying to wind up and effect Evra using racial language. Likewise I don't think Terry is a racist and I think him and Anton should have both suffered bans for general offensive and bad language and behaviour on the pitch that needs to be stamped out really; especially given the amount of cameras in grounds now / tv coverage. I wouldn't expect you to defend another teams player as such, the point is, do you defend Suarez because you are a Liverpool fan and stick up for your club (understandable) or do you genuinely not see why Suarez is so loathed?
I understand why fans of other teams don't like Suarez, and yes- there's an element of truth in the point that we defend him because he's one of ours, but some parts of your argument are still open to debate. It's a tired argument but still true that the words Suarez used are not considered particularly inflammatory in his culture. Yes, of course he was trying to wind Evra up, but Evra- on his own admission- had started off by making insulting remarks to Suarez. Yes, he dives. Several of us on here dearly wish he would jack it in. We're not defending what he does, but pointing out that it's no more than plenty of others do and they don't seem to get highlighted to the same extent. It's not what he gets accused of that riles us but the fact that he gets singled out all the time. Last week his silly dive was grabbing the headlines- no or very little mention of the kicking he was getting beforehand, or of other players diving on the same weekend. He's no angel, but he's not the Antichrist either.
Suarez is a bit of a dick at times, but he runs around more than anyone for the team and is a fantastic player. I don't see why he is being victimised though, racist or not, its been in the game for a long time and there are many worse people than Suarez and Terry for that matter. As for diving, the biggest of them all in recent times is the great drogba who cheated his way to victories in games. However he was known for being a diver, but there weren't headlines week in week out with his picture everywhere and getting booed at every single game he plays. People have collectively decided to drive Suarez out of the English Premier League, but good on him for signing a new contract. also, still think you have the best username Ive ever seen.
I think he is being 'singled out' because of previous conduct. Him and Terry were the main talking points last season for all the wrong reasons so obviously anything they do will be scrutinised by fans, pundicts etc more than other players. Plus he plays for one of the bigger clubs and they always get more attention. Drogba went over easy and rolled around a lot but I've never seen him go over in the box looking for a penalty when he hasn't been touched. Also Drogba did suffer from the Chelsea fans in his early years for over egging things and largely changed his ways (save for games v Barca - who he hates!!)
You may be right about my view being blinkered because i can`t see anything about Suarez to like. The things i mentioned in my previous post were not a list of all his faults but a comparison of how many other players it takes to make up the man .
