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Diving gits...... artists or assholes?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Oct 9, 2012.

  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    If Aldo's suggestion had been put in place over the last 10yrs or so.....


    'It’s time the FA dealt with the issue and I’d like to see a system put in place where if you have a player punished for diving then the manager gets fined £100,000.
    It might be the only way to eradicate it because if it was hitting managers in the pocket they would no longer turn a blind eye to what’s going on.'


    Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/live...ult-to-stomach-100252-31994737/#ixzz28o8fXsER


    ....this feller would be skint by now.

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  2. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    .<laugh>

    So True, Staam said it didn't he, Fergie told his players to dive, it's official. <ok> Fergie denies and orders it at the same time, how many other managers are known to have told players to dive to get an advantage, the media forget that don't they.

    I do remember every united fan and the media claiming barca will dive all over the place at wembley, and it never happened at all, just one team humiliating another.
     
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  3. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Come on mate I play every week and if I went down every time I got nibbled like that I'd be on me back more than a Hope Street hooker. Rather than "belly flop"...how about get the **** off your arse and play the game. The lads got the balance of a tightrope walker when he wants to stay up so how can a little clip like that "induce" the flop? If he gets fouled and doesn't get the free kick here's a novel idea...get up and try and win the ball back <ok> Now that's simple logic.
     
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  4. saintanton

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    I don't care how many times anyone tries to justify it with "refs are useless" or "everyone does it" and " you get nothing for staying up so you might as well go down and make a ****ing meal of it", it still does my head in and I won't defend it. The sooner it's eradicated from the the game the better, though I'm not holding my breath.
    The only thing I'll say in defence of Suarez is that because "everyone else does it", the way the media and other fans, managers etc; single him out for it is both hypercritical and hypocritical.
     
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  5. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Totally agree. Just makes me wonder why people give a **** what the media/opposition fans say. Of course they're all hypocritical and hypercritical but as a Liverpool fan I've seen it all and heard it all before a million times so I really couldn't give a ****.
     
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  6. BCR

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    Another reason why Messi is so great, stays on his feet and keeps going. Especially in a team of diving ****s as well.
     
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  7. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Agreed. He won't be winning us any games if he's rolling around on the floor feigning injury.

    He needs to do what Ronaldo did for Man Utd. Take the kicks and just blow the defenders away by being ****ing awesome, which he certainly can do if he puts his mind to it and stops trying to look for opportunities to go down and instead opportunities to score/play a teammate in on goal.
     
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  8. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    A wrote a piece a year ago about how Suarez should take a leaf out of David Silvas book. Shame no ****er ever listens to me <laugh>
     
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  9. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

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    Suarez is so damn crafty, creates so much, could meg a mermaid, but that other part of his game has just got to go. He could be so much more effective.
     
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  10. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    I couldn't agree more <applause>
     
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  11. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Yes the FA should take action against Diving, 3 match ban is harsh perhaps a 1 match ban. The same a 2 yellow card Red. And I agree someone needs to sit down with Suarez and have a word, it would improve his game no end if he spent more time on his feet.

    But there are a number of other things that should be eradicated by the FA:
    *Hate to see it when a group of players surround the refs when there is a difficult decision. Badgering them hand out a red card, to give or not give a penalty. I thought that only the captain of the team was allowed to speak to the ref about these things (unless a player has been called over obviously)
    * Arguing with officials AFTER the decision has been made. Once its been given they really should just get on with it. In Hockey, once the umpire has made his mind up, given the decision any further arguing is penalised (the player gets a talking to, sin binned, Green carded or the ball is moved 10 meters up the pitch). If you have an issue with a decision wait till after the match and the club to deal with it through proper channels, after all the referees aren't suddenly going to rescind a Red card.
    * Waving imaginary cards or approaching refs to get another player sent off (yes I know Suarez is bad for this, but ManU really are the masters of this) after all isnt this the same as diving. Cheating in order to gain an advantage within the match.
     
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  12. BringBackfootie

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    Yeah but were not talking sunday league and get the fk on with it, we are talking primadonnas and a soft professional game.

    If all others like Young can get a pen for that then.... it is the context of decisions given overall that Suarez should have had a pen, but to you and me, none should have got one for the weakest of touches.

    Suarez has been denied more than once, 4 pens this season yet noone fkn mentions it apart from using that to attack his reputation.

    Even the ref boss said, no we dont deny penalties on facts in front of referees eyes but on predispositions we do?! when the rules clearly say the ref must actually see what happens and not use probability?!

    The premer league is stinking, so it matters not. I dont doubt there is as much corruption as in italy Germany turkey ect. Watching less and less each year because it is like WWE now, so much soap opera, I have a life after all, I dont have time for the panto and am fast getting bored sick of it.

    Anyone that thinks the game is straight in england need their heads checked, anyone that thinks Howard Webb is on the level also needs medication
     
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  13. Rubadub

    Rubadub Well-Known Member

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    There was slight contact but not enough for a pen imo and the delayed bellyflop was a shocker so im not going to try to defend it. Suarez does get unfairly treated but I think that was clear as day.
     
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  14. Jimmy Squarefoot

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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'm glad my thread has got the corrupt schisters at fifa so interested <laugh>

    seriously though you either treat football like an entertainment and appreciate equally how huth is a turdbag doing his very best to wind up suarez and rough him up for his teams advantage and how suarez is a cheating little so and so who'll try for anything be it a nugmeg or a dribble or a dive..... my message is either get mad and don't enjoy the specatacle or buy into it all being part of the package and you can laugh at the pathetic efforts and cheer the great dive effort.

    hate your sport or love it....
     
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  16. Kylo_Toure

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    Well I'm getting sick of it now, I wish the FA would just ban him already. Suarez didn't invent diving, he's just the latest in a very long list (including another blatant dive committed on the same day that has received almost no coverage). I'm starting to think I would be happy for Suarez to be the one made an example of it if meant that diving would be punished across the board, but we all know how inconsistent that would be.

    Suarez has got to be one of the worst cheats in the game, and I mean that in the fact he gets away with nothing. He's like the lad in the Shawshank Redemption who keeps on getting caught for theft, I'd use Andy Dufresne adviced he dolled out, "you don't seem to be a very good cheat, maybe you should try something else"
     
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  17. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    You're right in so much of that mate but I have to ask when has any of this been any different? Have the FA only just become incompetent buffoons? No they've always been as useless and biased and ham-fisted and ****-witted. I understand the frustration (we all share it at times) but ask yourselves how do we as a club fight against it? With difficulty obviously but the worst thing, and the most frustrating thing is having a player like Suarez who seems to keep trying to prove all these buffoons right.

    Let me take you back to early in last season when Fergie started his campaign aginst Suarez (and that's what initially got the rags to sit up and start to label him). The minute ole red nose came out with statement about him diving someone at LFC should have tied Suarez to a chair and drummed it in to his head that for the next few months he should keep his mouth shut, stay on his feet whenever possible and prove the old tosser wrong. What happened next? We played Norwich (I think) and he spent the entire 90 minutes on his arse, crying, snivelling, waving imaginary cards and in the space of that one 90 minutes gave away any moral high ground he could have taken and Suarezs reputation was cemented. So however much we despise Fergies hold over the FA isn't it up to others to find a way to combat it?

    So let's take the latest incident. After weeks of him playing to his strengths and starting to gain just a modicum of sympathy he again goes and shoots himself (and all of us) in the ****ing foot with a blunderbus. Why? Because he just can't help himself.

    Taking all the rest of the **** out of the equation just ask yourself if Suarez would help us more by being more professional and more focussed on scoring/creating than the stupid stuff. He could be one of our greats and yet we spend as much time talking about his theatrics as his football.

    We have a whole heap of problems at the moment and we don't need more especially when they are so daft. Forget united, the FA and all the other bollocks because we'll never change their bias and just think how Suarez can best serve us on the pitch. For me the answer to that's quite simple. Stay on his feet and play because he's amazing when he does and its what he's best at. No more excuses just lots more skills and goals.
     
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  18. saintanton

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    It's a thin line between love and hate, mito:)
    Seriously, you can hate certain aspects of something whilst loving it as a whole.
    As I said earlier, I hate the whole diving thing and would be glad to see it taken out, but I'm getting sick of Suarez being singled out every time as though he's the sodding Antichrist.
    Suarez fell over when he didn't need to, this is wrong. Also Suarez gets the crap kicked out of him several times beforehand without anything being done-this is even worse. At least nobody gets injured by him doing pathetic dives.
    For Pulis to try and take the moral high ground given the way his team play is just absurd.
     
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  19. ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME

    ITS_NOT_JUST_A_GAME Active Member

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    The smiley at the start of your post gives it away, you are either a young child who knows no different or the village idiot.
    I am a Utd fan and show one post from me saying Barca would dive.
    You say every Utd fan so either show it or by abstaining admit you talk ****.
     
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  20. saintanton

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    ^This^
     
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