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Mmmmm Diving Suarez.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by DarloGeordie, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Dyslexia's a bitch, rihgt? ;)

    I think you'll find it was consistent with the topic. People hate Suarez because he dives, I don't because that's a ridiculous reason, just wish he and Liverpool fc had handled himself better re the Evra issue, no biggie. <ok>

    Also, if you read my post at all, you'd notice the futility in moaning about diving is compared with the futility of arguing the racism issue.

    Another point I made was how good a player he is, and how all this (instigated by your own support and the hatred by other fans) is detracting from that.
     
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  2. luvgonzo

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    I'm not looking to attack you so don't go looking for a fight here, I just thought that you seemed to want to bring up that subject in order to get a reaction. If not then fine.

    Typos happen mate being a smartarse about it just makes you look arrogant.
     
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    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    <laugh>
    Just some friendly banter and you start playing the victim card... Jesus you lads have been battered on here haven't you?

    If I was looking for a reaction like some of the numpties that come on here, you'd be well advised to just ignore it. As it happens, I like canvassing other peoples views and debating with football supporters, so there's no need to be so precious about it all <ok>

    If anyone has any disagreements with what I said, they are more than welcome to logically critique it, it is just an opinion after all.
     
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  4. luvgonzo

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    Ok mate whatever you say, I'm not playing the victim at all and if I was interested in what you are saying then I'd be happy to chat about it with you. It's quite obvious that you are looking to wind people up and get a reaction, not biting here I'm afraid but I'm sure someone will be along to indulge you at some point.

    Have fun.
     
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    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> If laughing my ass off was possible, I'd have done it. You're pathetic if you think I'm winding you up, and even more so if you have been wound up. Wind that neck in lad, and either talk football or shhhhh <ok>

    If you look at any predictions I've made about the season, I have Liverpool above us, and have retained a complimentary nature about your players over a long period. If that winds you up, I recommend you see a psychiatrist!
     
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    Like I said not wound up or playing any sort of victim, just pointing out the attitude of your posts. If you can post sensible questions without being sarcastic then most on here will happily debate with you.

    I don't think that is going to happen though.
     
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  7. Girls, girls, give it up and move away from each other <ok>
     
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  8. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    You do realise that you are actually adding the tone and "attitude", right?!
     
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    I like him, and we are having a debate. I'm not sure what it's about yet but I'm off home in a moment so it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Oh! My mistake I didn't realise and apologise.
     
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    Ok fair enough... My bad.<sorry>

    Shouldn't have responded to it
     
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  12. <laugh> I'm sure you will figure it out soon enough <ok>
     
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    Don't hold your breath, as you know I'm not the sharpest spoon in the fruit basket.
     
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    Can we make it about why Torres has gone from destroyer to limp chicken? He's literally a woeful version of his former self... or was he just on a really hot burst for like 6 years?
     
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    Off home, may be back later, have a good one.
     
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  16. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    Ditto <ok>

    Congrats on getting to 100 rep as well Gerrez. In our parts, that's cause for a rep party <party>
     
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  17. Didn't realise I had, thanks for pointing it out <ok>

    PS - Torres has been doing alright this seaosn, he's scored a few too but I don't think he has got a brace or better yet <ok>
     
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  18. Ivan Dobsky

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    Like when I was asked to provide evidence of how Evra lied under oath and provided it? No excuses, after being racially abused himself (and being specifically told his sister was a whore in Spanish) he was wrong to reply in kind. But there was no evidence he said negro five/seven/ten times or even twice. So when you say APPROPRIATE just point to any evidence in the report that Suarez said anything with racial overtones more than once. Go on, EVIDENCE, not opinion, he said a racial insult more than once.

    Knock yourself out, ****. THAT'S why it festers.
     
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  19. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    Wow, literally quivering <laugh>

    Firstly, I absolutely agree with anyone who thinks what Evra said in the first instance was disgusting and deserving of a ban himself, so no worries there (that alone is not excuse for you to be so stroppy. There's no kick "general" abuse out of the game, as much as I think it would benefit, so any logical fan would have seen the situation coming, rather than gripe about it for months and months).

    Secondly, you say knowledgeably "no evidence that he even used it twice", because he admitted using it once. That's racism on its own, folks. <ok>
    In the context of the confrontation, with abuse being hurled by both sides, it was clearly not a friendly reference as I believe Suarez tried to suggest. Under the eyes of the law in this country, if it had been taken that far, he would have been guilty just for using it in that way the once. The rest of the times may have been a figment of the imagination of Evra, but there was no excuse for using the word in the first instance. With respect to the "kick racism out of football" campaign, the FA had to act and did. What happened after was a farce, however. If Luis had apologised, said he went too far etc, it would all have been over. But instead, he dragged you all through the mud with him by kicking up a fuss and making even more of the situation, and the booing and rejecting of handshakes that have gone with it have been ridiculous. From a neutral perspective, it was time to let go a while back. Man Utd fans, for there part, are in this too.

    I mention in passing this occasion as a reason I don't admire or find Suarez likeable, because maturity in a player, exhibited by many former and current Liverpool players, is something I take into account... And what happens, you jump on it with unnecessary abuse? How does that make you any better than the two involved in the incident??? It's pathetic.

    I don't admire Evra either, because he seems immature and downright horrid as well, by the way.
     
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  20. Ivan Dobsky

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    "Under the eyes of the law in this country, if it had been taken that far, he would have been guilty just for using it in that way the once."

    Utter nonsense. If that was the case, why didn't it happen? You obviously don't know the law when it comes to public order offences - the CPS or DPP can prosecute even without the 'victim' being a witness, let alone putting in a complaint, if it is deemed within the public interest. But for it to be a criminal offence there has to be intent, as well as the defendent having a presumption of innocence and the evidence standard being reasonable doubt, not balance of probabilities; all three which were denied Suarez during his witchtrial, even though natural justice and the precedents of civil law mean any accused should at least have been afforded a presumption of innocence.

    if you really think that had the Suarez case ever gone to a real court (and had the DPP been insane enough to waste taxpayers money on a trial with no prospect of conviction) he would have been found guilty(especially as Evra, the chief witness and only source of evidence would have had his credibility blown to smithereens with THAT YouTube performance) then you should join the Luther Blissett school of comically bizarre legal opinions. Or apply for a seat on the FA's next 'independent' panel - you're eminently qualified.
     
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