Yeh, I see the contradiction. Was hoping to appeal to your reasonable side ... You weren't meant to notice it in the context of what I'd just said I think, and many will share this view, that Stoke are much more physical than the old Bolton sides, or Blackburn were, or West Ham are now. The only Twitter account attributed to Gerrard is for his charity.
Eh? Man Utd idiots? I suspect you have not read any of our comments, the 2 United fans here being myself and Swarbs. Both of us have said Stoke do nothing that other clubs dont do and that Liverpool and other clubs who call your football anti football should man up a little. Huth hasnt been banned either though he should of been.
I'm sure many will share your viewpoint, but it is ultimately a matter of opinion. Personally I remember Kevin Davies and his tactical elbows being much more widespread than something like Huth's stamp. Besides which, physicality is as much a part of the game as pretty passing or long range shooting, and long may that continue. Ultimately I think everyone's view of what consists of "anti football" is coloured by the ability of their own team to deal with it. I reckon there would have been more than one Real Madrid fan grumbling about "anti football" in 2009 as Barca passed the ball around them in yet another midfield tika taka triangle, and I remember Arsenal fans making similar complaints about our direct attacking style as we sliced their team to pieces on the counter around the same time.
Hello Potts, what he said was; er er er er you know like er er um um um er er er um you know er er um er er er you know like er WHAT HE MEANT WAS; I say old chap, I do realise that the modernism implied in Eliot's Prufrock poems is more symbolic than stylistic, I do hope you agree. Just saying
Well I HAVE read every single comment on this thread and... Rev YOU are entitled to your oppinion and I for one respect that. As others have said it's your right to say as you wish. Just one question for you Rev. Having said what you have re Stoke's stlyle or lack of, Anti football or you are infering similar. In that, WE STOKE do not go out to win a game. What did we do the first 25 mins? From what I've heard and read from (nuetrals) is this. We COULD maybe SHOULD have been 2 nil up before Liverpool even got started. Adam? and Walters with that chip which Reina tipped over. Was that not an (attempt) to TRY and score, i.e. win the game? And can I suggest that IF you need any proof that we're so thuggish, and anti football by contious fouling/kicking/hacking etc. Take a look at the fair play TABLES the last two seasons. The one that shows RED/YELLOW cards and there are far worse teams than Stoke it's there as FACT. NOT just an oppinion. Anyhow, Good luck for the rest.
Cris Fantastic write up mate have some rep WE I never did Cris. I had a run in with a few Pool fans last night. I was litening to the game on radio and it was my hero Terry Conroy Co commentating with Nigel Johnson. He also Said " Suarez went in hard on Begovic" " Given that Stoke have picked up yellows that should have been a yellow" So, what I heard and what you saw are quite right Cris? And, DIVING? Davies last week was booked for the same offence. A DIVE so I asked. WHY was Suarez not sent off or i.e. 2nd booking or should have been. Re Huth, I've seen it a few times Cris and although I thought Huth could have made more of an effort to JUMP over Suarez he did'nt look like he did. I've just heard he will face no further action. Well, seen that Suarez gets away with "cheating" that's fair enough. But I do think Pulis needs to shut it and keep it shut. I'll take your word for the yellows given but T.C. more than once said.. " Liverpool are getting away with one or two OTT fouls, should have been booked" And, I believe Walters was booked for "playing on" after the whistle. Not for the foul on Johnson who was "man enough to just get up and get on with it. Good on you Glen Johnson. Suarez, words fail me Cris. Thanks for the views on the game. WHY don't you join Nigel Johnson Cris, It's almost to a word how I heard it. Cheers. Oh, and thanks for the offer to help out as a Moderator Cris. I appreciate that.
You know as well as I do that Pulis sent his team out primarily not to lose - anything else would be a bonus. Tables are fine, but like statistics they don't paint a full picture in isolation. You'll find few people that would disagree with the tag anti-football in some way regarding Stoke. Begovic was time-wasting after 35 minutes - and he did so for the entire match. He wasn't booked, so it's not on a table... But it happened. That's just an example.
Rev So Begovic was time wasting and if what I heard is correct. That means that Suarez can attempt to kick him? That makes sense now Rev. Cos he would be time wasting it's what we do. I suppose Suarez was "time wasting" when he dived? Or was it because he was desperate to WIN a penalty because you could NOT hit a barn door with a sherman tank. I said desperate because it was a WORD used by another Pool fan not me Rev. Of course the tables are WAY OFF what the real world really shows. Walter's was booked because he played on after the ref blew his whistle. So STOKE come to Liverpool and we are.. The ONLY team to time waste??. NOT! True is it and you know it isn't.
Thanks for that Potts. I forgot the chip which Reina tipped over but thought it was an effort from Kightley. Re Begovic. I thought it was in the second half he started to take longer taking freekicks or goalkicks. Again Lee Mason should have chivvied him up sooner than 85 minutes when he waved him on and showed him his watch! No excuse for Suarez! Yes agree we should have been at least a goal to the half time. Coming up tomorrow to the Kitchen cook with Owem, Kightley and Sorenson with Crouchie judging!
Oh BTW Suarez did waste time when he just belted the ball into the crowd when he overran the ball. Perhaps he should have been booked for that as well!!!
Tenter, Appreciate the write up as I missed large parts of the game with a dodgy link, nice to here a balanced view as ever. NB, You'll be breaking into the scouse conga in i bit. Er dee doo dat dare doh don't dee, Dee doo dat dare doh don't dee, Dee doo dat dare, Dee doo dat dare.
I said desperate And he was desperate. Lamentably and embarrassingly so. It's a clash of ideologies - he embodies the 'win at all costs' thing; I'd rather he was more honest. We're all agreed on that. The Begovic - Suarez 'incident' - and I don't even want to call it an incident it was so minor - is a different point altogether. The ball was on the ground. Begovic and Suarez were both entitled to go for the ball. Just because Begovic is a keeper doesn't mean he should be sacrosanct (see the goal Southampton had disallowed this weekend as well) - Suarez had every right to challenge him. Begovic wasn't expecting it and was angry (or pretending to be, anyway). He wanted Suarez to be booked - it's professionalism I suppose. Why would we time-waste, at home, at 0-0, against Stoke, when we dominated the game, anyway? Anyway! It'll be another game entirely at the Britannia I hope! please log in to view this image Nice having banter with you lot, we rarely see you otherwise!
Tenterden ,reading your comments regarding the games at Liverpool,I too was at that Boxing Day game in the 60`s and if I remember correctly Peter Thompson got 5 goals that day and I don`t think to this day I`ve seen such a one man demolition of us as he did then. He was a true Liverpool legend.
Joe, I can not remember who scored for Liverpool that day but was just pleased at the time that I had seen Stoke score at Anfield. I thought the Boxing day game was 0-0. Could not remember the 6-1 was Boxing Day. I do however as a youngster recall being beaten up and losing my scarf when some teenagers got off the Stoke coaches parked alongside Stanley Park and asked if I was a scouser. Foolishly I did not know at my tender age about 11 what a scouser was? Syaing no without any accent I was promptly set upon! Not the best day out I had had! The best game I saw was when we lost 5-3 I think in April sunshine. We were leading at one stage and think that Conroy and Ritchie got goals that day and I always remember Hughes piledriver from outside the box. Inevitably Liverpool went on to win the league that year!
