And yet Evra changed his evidence three times, lied on oath about his distaste of

No I wouldn't. But there must be a time when a line would be drawn under it?
Also Foredeckdave maybe I overreacted to your post so apologies for that.

 

The issue of racism within British society goes beyond football as we know BBT as we saw with the many people outside of the football community that were quick to give their opinion before, during and after the Suarez case mate, once public opinion is swayed through the media it's difficult for the governing body not to pander to the wishes of the public.

Thing is the general public's view is in the Suarez/Evra case based on what Evra wrongly said Suarez said immediately after the game and that is the word 'ni**er' .

 

Fair play to you for your apology.

As for the 'line being drawn', unfortunately the Suarez/Evra case gets dragged up because of the Terry case. The media cannot resist mentioning it so it clearly is back in the news and there are comparisons that can be picked on by all parties. Liverpool fans feel that Suarez was treated unfairly and because the report was not watertight and there is grounds for complaint then it will always be open to debate!

 

True words mate! After reading Evra's comments regarding how the affair affected him afterwards, even though he 'won', I guess he wished that he had adopted Suarez' attitude that what happens on the pitch should stay on the pitch. Because before that incident we didn't hear anything about racism or racist chanting for a long time...now we have booing of anthems, players getting booed, WBA fans chanting 'there's only one John Terry' to QPR fans, etc etc etc.

I am not saying there wasn't a problem before and I am not condoning Suarez' or Terry's behaviour if it was racially motivated, but the FA's response doesn't seem to have helped, in fact it seems to have exacerbated the problem and now fans have an excuse to bait opposition fans with taunts of racist behaviour from their players, which in turn results in a response, which just goes round and round and keeps it in the public eye!

By trying to tackle two isolated incidents the FA have managed to allow every fan up and down the country to generalise and condemn whole sets of supporters as racist sympathisers and for the time being taunts along those lines are being chanted, surely that fact alone shows that the FA have got it wrong, badly! We have had 3 known cases of possible racial abuse in the PL in the last 20 years, that equates to 3 cases in approximately 8,000 games, for me it is not a problem, but I can guarantee that tomorrow Stoke fans will use it and call all Liverpool fans and Suarez racists, is it fair that the opinion of 3 men, 3 men who guessed, should allow this to happen?

 

I know you were not being serious, neither was I with my reply, we all know where we stand!

As for the Al Capone reference, you are right, he was hammered for tax evasion cos they couldn't get him for anything else apparently. It did however make the authorities look ridiculous and incompetent as they could not get him charged for the heinous crimes he supposedly committed!

What was he actually guilty of, you seem sure that he was guilty of something else, what was that? By the way, I am not condoning or supporting anything that he supposedly did, I am just curious as to what makes you think he was guilty of things that he was never actually tried for!

 

Thickest post of the year this one and considering we have UIR camped on our board all day every day that's pretty impressive

 

Just to let you know, the word 'negrito' was never used. It was not used by Evra when he referred to what Suarez said, it was not used by Suarez in his evidence, in fact, if i remember correctly the term 'negrito' was never mentioned at all in the hearing or the subsequent report!

So, with this in mind, your initial statement that, and I quote, "He was guilty of using a racially patronising term in negrito. 'Little black', a bit like 'boy' which was used in the USA as a derogatory remark towards Afro-Americans" is actually fundamentally incorrect.

This fundamental inaccuracy on your behalf makes me wonder what you actually do know about the whole affair! Considering the fact that you can not even get the basic facts correct, do you even know what went on? It is clear that you have not read the report or even read the subsequent media articles that refer to the report, so should your comments be taken seriously? No is the answer! At least acquaint yourself with the basics first before spouting your uninformed comments please!

As for the rest of what you said, to be honest, I did read it but I couldn't shake the feeling that you are ill-informed and basically do not have a clue what you are talking about and so I disregarded them!

 

As I have pointed out above, you do not have a clue what you are talking about. Can you at least have the dignity to admit that you got it wrong?

If you can admit that you got it wrong, then can you consider the fact that for the last 10 months you have been going around and talking nonsense about this issue and thus your views on said issue are fundamentally flawed considering that you do not even know what was said? So there...

 

Suarez eh, horrible? Well unlike Giggs he did not listen to Evra's suggestion about shagging sisters, cept giggs went and shagged his brothers, the day after his wife had a kid too, Suarez horrible, shagging grannies, kicking fans flying elbows cheating throwing punches, all of this United, wehat the fukc are you even talking about You ******


This is one of the most bile ridden inaccurate lies posted on this site. This guy is the biggest fking fktard ever to post on not606 Well done JJS

is this guy a media bot? He just made a post out of every media blast over the last 25 years.

What a substandard human being

 

It's the scant memories of what has been in he media, this is the mainstay of manc posting.

I think they believe what they read more than any other fan group once that nonsense fits in with whatever way the bile is flowing

 

OMG this guy is sooo ******ed, he think fans are backing Evra and not just having a go at an opposition player

This guy thinks Chelsea fans Arsenal fans ect are backing United and Evra You are fkn thick mate seriously thick.


Let the bile flow my man

 

In that case anyone can say anything and get someone done. Loving the piety you slap on paddy evra, he's a liar, a proven one yet because he plays for United he must be telling the truth, stop talking through your arse RR

 

I would not debate with someone that posts such bollox.

I hear blame the media. Didn't united on occasion blame the media for the harsh punishment of Rooney.

For swearing into a TV camera and for trying to smash McCarthys face with an elbow. Diving and being made apologise for being a diving cnut.. Things Rooney actually did, not probably and Suarez is horrible?, conveniently forgotten when slating Suarez even though the former leads a horrid personal life in the public eye and the other a family man.

 

Time to close this thread IMO.

Why FFS fight a batlle that has been fought to death a year ago? NOTHING new is being/has been said and it is the same old arguments and insults. We will never convince the mancs that Evra was the guilty party and Suarez was less guilty than he was punished for.