Trying to move away from another Hughes specific thread - this time about Park and SWP. Most seem to be in agreement that their presence in their current positions is not helping matters. And I agree. But for me neither should be in the first eleven either. Some have said Park is better on the RW than the LW - well tbh i dont think he should be playing either position at all - he has zero pace so cannot beat a man and every possibly counter attack he wastes. Regarding SWP obviously he has pace, but god only knows what he does with it.
I can understand one defensive winger but not 2. ID give Park a few games at RW because we only have Mackie or SWP as an option but its unforgivable to play Park at LW because SWP has to play at RW. Especially when we have Taarabt and Hoilett to play at RW. 4231 with Hoilett Taarabt Park behind Zamora.
I would do what you said in a earlier thread i think: -----------park----faurlin hoilett-----granero----taarabt ------------zamora-----------
Been saying since the start of the season these 2 shouldn't be starting PL games for us. Hughes insistence on playing these 2 is a huge mistake IMO, and with our woeful defensive performances is why he should go.
Cant disagree Oslo - that is a major reason for our position. But this isnt all MH fault. The players have badly let him down at times.
-----granero------faurlin park------taarabt----hoilett ----------zamora----------- I prefer that for the home formation.
Park and SWP should be dropped. Does Hughes have the balls to drop his newly appointed captain though?
Really dont want to see Park in any attacking position - even RW - he cannot do a decent job there. If he was in the CDM alongside Faurlin his pace isnt such an issue and he can use his decent passing ability to good effect.
I can't bring myself to blame SWP and Park. They can't help being the players they are, effort can only do so much as Mackie clearly shows us. Shouting at the players won't help. New manager fresh start with all forgiven and all in with a chance.
Man U fans said he was bad in CM, they lost something like 13 out of 16 game when he played there but was very good at RW. You dont need pace on the wing, just half a yard of space to deliver a cross. Something he cant do on the left because hes on his wrong foot.
Fair point, but how many times has he stopped us counter attacking against 2 or 3 defenders when he cant run down the wing? He stifles us in attack. If he cant play CM, then drop him imo.
We looked a lot better with M,bia in for Fautrlin, just need Diakite in for Park and Hoilett in for SWP and that will do it.
Ive played on the wrong wing and its not nice going down the line knowing your not confident of swinging in a cross with your wrong foot. Maybe he will do that when he knows he can then put a cross in.
We need some pace in central midfield - Park cannot play there with Ale! FFS someone will have him as target man or Keeper soon - best position for him will be mascot.
Faurlin and Granero can't protect our back four. For somebody who claims to understand football you don't seem to grasp the concept that no team plays without at least one DCM except us. We are bottom of the league. Can you not make the connection. A team without at least one of M'Bia/Diakite/Derry in the centre will continue to loose.
Faurlin is a DCM, he led the league in tackles/interceptions last year before he did his knee. How many goals to or against WH were down to the CM? at least 4 out of the 5 came from crosses from the LB slot.
I think they can in flyer's 4-2-3-1 with the two of them as the holding midfielders. It's when we play a flat 4 across the middle with the two of them in the middle that we get so exposed. That wouldn't happen with 5 in the midfield imo. I maintain that I'd play that formation away from home and 4-3-3 at home with a dedicated holding midfielder as you describe.
Col, I suppose what I am trying to say (badly) is that I don't think either Faurlin or Granero are proper DCMs. Both are fabulous players but should be further up the pitch. Rumours say that Utd are looking at Faurlin as a replacement for Scholes. That underlines further his ability as a ball player. Just think MH is deploying a lot of round pegs in square holes.
I agree with you mostly on this Nuts. Ale is a good CDM, but he needs someone alongside him with more speed than Granero appears to have, Diakite is 1st choice for me or M'bia maybe, Derry if these 2 aren't available as tho he doen't have speed he will just sit in front of the back 4 and protect them. In all but the easiest games (and right now there probably none of them) I think we need a central midfield of ideally Ale, Granero and Diakite, or a 2 with Ale and Diakite, with Granero playing a litle in front of them. With these 3 we don't need the defensive qualities (debatable) of SWP and Park, but can play Adel, Hoillet, and Cisse, or Zamora (not my choice) in the attacking 3.
RE JSP, you may be missing the bigger picture. Have you not noticed the numbe rof new Korean fans at LR? They are not coming to watch QPR!! At the Capital One game v Reading, my friend and I counted at least 40 Korean fans in about 20mins. That is just from one person in one small area. Play Park = Korean fans coming = revenue. Of course that revenue is a drop in the bucket were the unthinkable to happen.
