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Holt's 'givin up' on England call-up

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by ncfcwonky, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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  2. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    TBH, I thought he came across really arrogant and very bitter. If Ruddy hadn't been given his call up he might have had a case but it sounds very like sour grapes to me!
















    I would also like to announce that i'm giving up hope of being called up to the England Squad.
     
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  3. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    is he not making a general point about unfashionable players not being picked and england picking players from big teams who aren't on form i.e downing

    sacrificial lamb
     
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  4. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    yes, that's exactly what he is doing, hence he mentions other players in the same boat.

    guru as usual just reacts to the word 'HOLT' <ok>
     
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  5. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    again i say, if that was the case Ruddy wouldn't have been picked!

    I would say there were a more people ahead of Grant Holt in queue who should be complaining, Peter Crouch for one!
     
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  6. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    come on, anyone can see ruddy has been called up by default more than anything! the fact butland was rated as 'number two' tells you everything you need to know about the england 'clique'. if your face doesn't fit, you won't be considered.

    hopefully it will change - the inclusion of shawcross is a start.
     
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  7. Guru of Ipswich

    Guru of Ipswich Well-Known Member

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    But surely the crux of your argument is that players are only picked for who they play their club football for? so are you saying that Butland plays for a big club.

    this is where the argument falls down, you can't on hand say players are only picked for because they play for a certain few clubs, yet turn it around and complain about somebody being picked from a smaller club?
     
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  8. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    no. butland was part of the england clique though. when he was given the number two position it was questioned and hodgson said "we know more about jack than john". butland had NEVER played for his club at this point. players are rarely picked on merit, hence why the likes of downing and henderson get called up yet nathan dyer doesn't.
     
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  9. redruthyella

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    Good on Holt. While some footballers ought to keep the mouths firmly closed at times, at last somebody has used terminology other than the usual spin. He knows his chance has gone so he doesn't have to keep his own counsel anymore,
     
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    Look at what Ashley Cole has said though and they're perfectly happy for him to train with the squad on monday!
     
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  11. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    I think we'll have to accept disrespect. People can hate on us and say "we're just norwich" but they should have a look at their own ****ty clubs first.

    Do Chelsea fans think about the fact they are owned by a politically corrupt oligarch when they say "it's just Norwich?" do Ipswich fans think about the fact they are owned by the bigger ticket tout on the planet when they say "it's just Norwich"

    Of course they don't. I'll let you in on a secret guys. They are ****ing morons and there's lots of them about unfortunately. It doesn't worry me that they support the team they support but I suppose it does worry me that they have a vote.
     
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