Agreed. The only way to play Cisse and Zamora up front together is to play 4-1-3-2 with a dedicated holding midfielder. I don't particularly like it, but it's the only way imo.
As Park is totally inept at getting past players, crossing, shooting, and against Hammers at the least he did nothing defensively either, I find it very hard to see what difference it will make him playing on the right. I think at the moment he is far worse than SWP who at the least has speed. SWP in turn is worse out wide than both Cisse and Hoillet. Mackie is also a better alternative than Park and SWP wide right, or right back possibly. Park or SWP shouldn't be near our starting 11. I don't see what we are losing playing Adel. Hoillet and Cisse in forward roles as long as we play a CDM - M'bia or Diakite - covering our very dodgy back 4 with Granero and Ale. Though Zamora has got our goals so far he is too static in this formation, and Cisse combines better with Adel and Hoillet. Zamora could come on if we need to resort to long balls / help protect a lead.
Park will be able to cross on his preferred foot if he is on the right. At least give him a chance to prove hes not good enough. Cisse cannot play up front on his own or out wide. He can only play in a 442 which is why he should be on the subs bench unless we are chasing the game.
We are bottom of the league mate, can't really afford to be giving chances to players who are so way off form to justify a starting place on merit! I think Cisse probably is best in a 2 as well, but also centrally in a 3 in a 4 3 3, close up to Zamora in a 4 2 3 1, and only Adel and Hoillet at the Club are probably better than Cisse wide right, and they maybe needed in other positions.
Cisse is off form, Zamora is in form so he has to start as hes scored more goals than Cisse and offers so much more.
Think, hope Cisse is on his way back into form - he needs a goal!. Zamora was scoring so I agree it would be hard to leave him out, but he was not good Monday, and as I said he don't fits the fast quick passing game that Adel, Hoillet, Diakite and Granero can give us at their best.
That was one f*kking amazing goal! That and Adel's Monday, are both candidates for goals of the season. In this time of darkness cometh 2 brilliant goals!
Only skimmed through this thread and looked at the first couple of posts re: formations.. Look great going forward, but if the oppo decided to attack (as they may well do) we would gt murdered on the left & right flanks !!
Agreed mate...didnt see that but looks like a good side and formation for me.... In fact the more i look at it it looks f-ing awesome
But I have just put a copyright on it so unfortunately Hughes can't use it without paying me 50% of his proposed wage
You nicked it from me Norway, so my 50%!!! Its the same formation I put in the first post, 2nd alternative, but I excluded players probably injured for West Brom. I like this formation, but when all are fit and near their best I would swap Ferdinand with Hill, Nelsen with M'bia, Favio with Traore, M'bia (as DCM) with Diakite, and Zamora with Cisse from your team - apart from Ferdinand all close calls though!.
50/50?? 25% each, deal? My view on Ferdinand has changed drastically from last year. I'm very much in favour of him playing. Along with Ale and Adel the one that are most "QPR" in our squad imo.
So many formations my head is swimming there must be one decent team in there somewhere, for me the following should definitely be on the pitch for the next game Terrorbat (and I'm not his biggest fan), Cisse (Best chance convertor we have) Granero and Faurlin (we need this partnership to continue to form) Mbia, Nelson, (looking like our best defensive players) Cesar So that's 7 leaving 4 places, these 4 places decide the formation for me. Players to consider Hoilett (i want him on the pitch) WE need a right and a left back, so if Bosingwa is not fit hopefully Dyer is, If Fabio isn't fit then hopefully Traore is. And for the final slot i know i will be told the error of my ways but i'd still like to see Mackie given a go. After the last game players that need some time to have think about what it is they do are SWP, Park and Onuoha. So my formation is as below, its basically a 4, 4, 1,1 with Adel given a free role. This team has a lot of pace and i would hope we get the ball on deck and play football. If we end up booting the ball up to Cisse then this is clearly a waste of time, i would take Mackie off shove Adel on the right and stick on Zamora to support Cisse reverting to a straight 4,4,2. . ------------------------Cesar Bosingwa/Dyer-----Mbia-------Nelson----------Fabio/Traore ---------------Faurlin----------Granero Mackie------------------------------------Hoilett ----------------------Adel -------------------------Cisse
That's the whole point really. With our current squad we can't follow the notion of having 'one up top'. BZ just doesn't win enough (anything) in the air so the business of having a target man is redundant. We have to keep the ball on the ground and work chances to any of the front 3 or midfield 3. And again, with those tactics BZ is not the best choice to start.
