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McLaren's grey area advantage, Flexi wing part 2?

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  1. Delete Me

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    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...fluegel-bei-mclaren-und-red-bull-5819046.html


    The secret of the folding wings
    Technology anger at McLaren and Red Bull


    Formula 1 technology is again imminent trouble. McLaren has developed a front wing, which has a secret: He tilts at sufficient pressure on the horizontal axis. Red Bull has in Singapore - redrawn - one step extreme. Suzuka want the FIA ​​governing body look exactly.
    Again and again the wings. Remember they still remember the endless discussions in the previous year? Red Bull ran for two years with a front wing, which buckled controlled at full speed. The pressure rose above a certain level, were lowered from the wing tips to the road.

    Thus, under the wing was a tunnel that prevented the air flowed laterally. The air under the center of the car reached more efficiently towards the underbody and diffuser. Some other teams have tried to copy the Red Bull concept, but no one was nearly successful. At Ferrari , for example, experienced adverse vibrations. The wing was re-wrapped.

    Development of flexible wing continues
    Over the winter the FIA ​​tightened the criteria for the stress tests. Thus, the wings flutter had outlived its usefulness. Now conceded even Red Bull chief technical officer Adrian Newey, the existence of one of the flexible wing. He introduced the ban to be one of the reasons why the Red Bull RB8 is not as successful as its predecessor.

    According to insiders Red Bull operation with Fügeln immense effort. It is said to have practically given for each route has its own, tailored to the type and route the output ratios wing type. The trick to have been hidden in the carbon structures that had to twist first before they were able to bend in the desired direction.

    But the secret was obviously not only in the wings, but also in the stilts, to which the vanes are hung. When it became clear that the FIA ​​serious about new stress tests said that some teams had to construct new noses.

    McLaren wing folds hinen
    But what engineers have once learned, they do not forget again. In silence in this area was further researched. McLaren apparently took the decisive gap. According to observers, the entire wing twist on the corresponding pressure on the horizontal axis. The new spoiler is one of the secrets of the superiority of the chrome-colored cars since the Hungarian GP.

    How Auto Motor und Sport in its latest issue (issue 22/2012) reported, has now followed suit and Red Bull in Singapore. The wing may have been a reason for the silver-blue superiority. Other teams had no chance of winning.

    Apparently Ferrari but has discovered the trick and the FIA ​​inspectors alerted. Then there were several discussions between the FIA ​​delegates and McLaren team boss Martin Whitmarsh. A closer look revealed that the two pylons of the nose to hold the main sheet of the wing with only one screw at the front edge. Around these can the entire wing to rotate about the transverse axis.

    Folding panel provides better airflow to the diffuser
    Since the 50 cm in the center of the wing in all cars must be the same shape, causes a rotation of the wing two things. With the regulations required buoyancy in this section is reduced. And the underbody is flown much more efficient. This in turn significantly more downforce at the rear.

    Red Bull has recognized the McLaren-secret first competitor and immediately upgraded. The rotation will be even more extreme than the McLaren. Therefore, Red Bull has launched in Singapore, a new, slightly longer nose. The nose and the center section of the wing had to be matched to the changed flow in torsion.

    It will be interesting how the technique Commissioners react to the new problem. Maybe they will perform in Suzuka torsion. If the wing to twist it at that, the nightmare is prohibited. Otherwise, a new arms race would begin, the only pointless costs money.

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    They had it since Australia! No wonder they were so fast at the start.

    RBR have just introduced their version at Singapore but a more extreme supposedly... Ferrari should be very worried
     
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    #F1 FIA plans to carry out a new / different load test in #Suzuka after Ferrari complained in Singapore.
     
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    Elena ‏@ElenaF1
    Mirado el reglamento. Los test de flexibilidad de los alerones delanteros son verticales, hacia abajo. No hacia atrás. A ver que dice la FIA

    *Translated*:Looked at the rules of procedure. The test of flexibility of the front wings are vertical, down. Not backwards. To see that it says the FIA
     
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    Like last year, if it passes the test its legal...
     
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    Yep, that was Silver's argument for 2 seasons!

    Ferrari are just pissed becuase they can't do any of this as their wind tunnel doesn't work so they can't conduct areo-testing to see if they can make their's work properly.
     
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    Not possible, I wasn't even here in 2010 <laugh>
     
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    WingGate! So does this mean that Hammilton is not actually that quick and hence Merc have just shelled out a shed load of money on a average driver?:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Seems like you've been with us for an enternity ;)
     
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    Those dirty cheating McLarens!

    Why cant they play by the rules like Ferrari and RBR <party>
     
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    If Seb and Alonso had that car, they might of won every race by now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Ahhhhhh the good old days *chuckle*
     
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    On a fishing expedition Mr Arrow?
     
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    I'm just seeing if anybody is that stupid to bite to be honest ASC ;)


    I find the lack of support of my sarcasm disturbing!
     
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    I'm more concerned that this means we'll have to tolerate Mr. Horner blubbing over the coming race weekend. Marvelous... Please remove it Macca and spare us all! :p
     
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    Cheating bastards!! and they are still getting owned by Fernando in the championship!
     
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    Go with the flow!

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    I think they should have all their points stripped from Hungary on wards...

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    Another complaint by Ferrari. Boring!
     
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  19. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Remember before the launch of the car they said they had something contraversial on the car which they tthough may be banned.... Round 15 is this it?
     
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    [video=youtube;qFYO43UCMYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFYO43UCMYE[/video]
     
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