I know it's a couple of days old but ****ing hell abusing and making innocent officers work far harder than it should be just because one senior officer transferred from South Yorkshire Police years after Hillsborough happen. Guess that makes every officer trying to keep things peaceful during a football match fair game then? Don't get me wrong WYP can be ****s when they want to be but that doesn't mean EFC fans can go round calling them murderers and every other name under the song. Police officers should of gone out on Tuesday wearing signs saying "WEST YORKSHIRE POLICE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN ANY POLICING DURING HILLSBOROUGH" then again Everton fans are from Liverpool....probably illiterate.
Couldn't care less about the police, but why are Everton fans so obsessed with "justice" for their local rival and singing about it at every opportunity? For example (although very different due to not being from the same city) would Leeds be singing about justice for Man Utd fans in a similar tragedy? I certainly wouldn't. Would the likes of Spurs/Arsenal or Man Utd/City be so supportive of their close rivals? Obviously families with a mixture of Everton and Liverpool fans that knew someone present/affected that day would be passionate about justice, but i'm shocked it has spread to the majority of the Everton fanbase.
True true What I find funny is the couple of videos of Everton fans chanting murderers at "Yorkshire Police" it's a bit like calling Great Manchester Police "Lancashire Police". I don't get Scousers all together tbh. It's as if witch hunting bobbies who made themselves sound better in their statements is going to bring back the 96. They act if the policemen on the day maliciously wanted them to die. A number of circumstances resulted in Hillsborough the main one been the lack of common sense health and safety during the era (i.e penning in fans like animals with no means of escape if something happened). If they want to blame anyone they should blame Liverpool fans turning up without tickets forcing police to let anyone and everyone in to prevent a crush outside and football safety officials for not making the game safer earlier. Strangely I don't see any "justice" campaigns for the 39 Juventus fans killed in Heysel Stadium. Why does ever tragic disaster have to result in a witch hunt these days?
Couldn't care less about the police, but why are Everton fans so obsessed with "justice" for their local rival and singing about it at every opportunity? For example (although very different due to not being from the same city) would Leeds be singing about justice for Man Utd fans in a similar tragedy? I certainly wouldn't. Would the likes of Spurs/Arsenal or Man Utd/City be so supportive of their close rivals? Obviously families with a mixture of Everton and Liverpool fans that knew someone present/affected that day would be passionate about justice, but i'm shocked it has spread to the majority of the Everton fanbase. Some of you are so thick. if you had a son, daughter, aunt, cousin, brother in law, sister in law, friend, who supported Huddersfield and died (or was murdered) at a football match would you not want justice because you are a Leeds fan Im sure many Everton fans lost friends and relatives at that match
Of course though they should be aiming that anger at the correct police force. I went had a look at an Everton forum after the match and some of them clearly thought Yorkshire Police was one big organisation.
One of the main perpetrators of the Hillsborough disaster is now a high-ranking WYP twat. Link. Any police deserve abuse, because it's their job to blindly follow orders, and those same dickheads outside the West Stand who charged innocent football fans for voicing their opinion, had they been at Hillsborough that day, would have been just as obedient, clueless and murderous. If their commanding officer told them to kick a child, they'd do it, and change the statement to say the child moved towards them in a menacing manner and had to be restrained. If Adolf Hitler came into power and said all Jews should be exterminated, they'd revel in chucking them on the trains and turning on the gas. Mighty is right, Evertonians will feel a lot of pain from the tragedy too. Liverpool isn't split in the same way Sheffield is (Weds in North, Utd in South) or Manchester (City in Northeast, Scum in Southwest), it's intermingled between both clubs, with more camaraderie than animosity, and there is no doubt there were hundreds/thousands of Toffees who were family members, friends and acquaintances of the Hillsborough dead, some of whom will have been at Elland Road on Tuesday. Good on them, and **** those arseholes from West Yorkshire Police who treat Leeds fans with the same loathing every other police force does.
In some ways I violently agree with Jerel, and in others I violently disagree. There are undoubtedly some complete knobs in the police who are just there for the power, but there are also some very good people in the police force, and they are normal humans like me (and the occasional one of you lot ), who also are supporters. Blindly slating a whole community because of their job is wrong. It reminds me of a song in the 80s (that Jerel wasn't even around for) which was sun in the Kop every week along the lines of XXXX XXXX is our friend, is our friend, is our friend, XXXX XXXX is our friend, he kills coppers. Forgotten the name of the twat who it was that had killed a copper and I always hated the ****s that sang it, cos clearly they are just ****s.
Like Sheldon there are parts of Jerel's statement I agree and disagree with, however aiming you're abuse at the wrong police force is just stupid, on top of the fact that it is behaviour like this that encourages the heavy handedness often seen at games.
What a load of crap no offence. How does one police officer transferring to WYP make coppers who were probably kids and teenagers during Hillsborough and had nothing to do with it guilty of murder? Norman Bettison wasn't out on the beat on Tuesday night so what the hell is the point. Oh and servicemen and women "blindly follow orders" do they deserve abuse?. Some sections of society (armed forces, emergency services, government officials) have to do something that the rest of society don't. Accept their position in society (as policemen, soldiers ect not politicians) and no matter what your private opinion is follow your leader whether that's a politician or a senior officer. In fact all sections of society do this but they just have to do it for their corporate bosses (i.e your boss tells you to do your work you do it) and where as everyone has their opinions about the government alot of people don't have about corporations.
Harry Roberts. I'm a person who believes in consistency being one of life's great virtues. If you're hypocritical or inconsistent and can't admit that, you can **** off as far as I'm concerned. If I see someone doing wrong, whether they wear a hoodie and balaclava or a police/army uniform, I will point it out and have no regrets about that fact. If Leeds fans went to Turkey for a European fixure, we'd belt out the disdain for the Turkish police force who stood by as Leeds fans bled on Taksim Square. It's not the same people who would have been there on the scene (as it wasn't on Tuesday for the Everton fans with Hillsborough), but the fact is that police officers all belong to the same force, and these officers have to obey Bettison. In the Turkish instance, they'd have obeyed their national chief officers who reacted, like the rest of their media, with a shrug of the shoulders and still haven't got real justice for the 11 stabbed that evil night. Until something changes, football fans will reserve and use their right to protest. What was chanted is provocative, but reacting to the provocation just proves what thugs and lackies the Police are. They'll do anything to cover another piggy's back, and don't care about truth, morality or law in the slightest, just themselves and the power/ego trip their silly hats give them.
