This is the sort of garcious fans they are, they complain about BBT and others especially UIR and co and go post this on the city board. http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/168424-Man-city-ruining-football-again Bittermuch but claim everyone else is. AnybodyButCity or AnybodyButBarca, which ever you choose is OK. The above teams won things and beat United hence the ABC ABB but ABUs exist because of the preferential treatment by the FA and refs and media. Big difference
Its almost like you lot are trying to ignore the decades of horrid chants heard from Anfield aimed at United because of this. Its like you are lying to yourselves and acting the victims ( dont even try and make something of that ) as if Liverpools fans have never done no wrong. Nobody is excusing the United fans, we all hoped it wouldnt happen but you cannot under any circumstances sweep decades of sick chants under the carpet. Liverpool football club has never ever apologised for the behavious of their fans during those times. Younger fans in the 20's deny it ever happened and glory hunting plastics in their 30's who have never been to Liverpool deny it ever happened. The videos of the time, the youtube links, the images show it very much did and it was the entire ground. Liverpool were not the only ones, it happened at every ground but Liverpool fans took the most pleasure. This process will take a long time. I hope United apologise and sort out the idiots. I hope Liverpool apologise for decades of this sort of stuff instead of sweeping it under they carpet and pretending it never happened. Maybe then fans of both sides who feel aggrieved can start to move forward and the long road to cutting these horrid chants out of the game might finally have an end point. This thread should of been closed ages ago.
But then you would have had to find another Liverpool thread to help turn into a tit for tat snoozefest. UIR you Open with the deliberate generalisations of "you lot" "Liverpool fans <add generic accusation of UIR choice>" to get the desired reaction, then end with the pseudo reasonable paragraph to hide that you a still on the wind up. It doesn't float mate. You are always, always one of the tits in a Liverpool board tit for tat descent into thread mediocrity. Please don't close this threads mods, it's somehow keeping the childish nonsense of "you said she said" contained.
And a number of Liverpool fans who frankly due to the fact it was about Liverpool fans being cleared should be massively ashamed of themselves. And as I said, do you really really think the United fans who were subjected to it for years from Liverpool fans will just forget? I wish they would but I am a realist. It will take time but things will get better. Had the morons in the Liverpool end not decided to run doing plane gestures would the United fans of responded? Maybe not. Then the game goes off without a hitch. I cant think of a single example where two factions who have been wronged and wronged each other so many times have just stopped. Its a long process and one both clubs need to work together on. We dont want to lose the rivalry or the intensity of it but we dont need these chants. I will be interested to see how the Liverpool fans behave at Old Trafford in January ( it is then isnt it? ). You are rarely well behaved and have done what United fans did just 4 years ago ( singing 'whos that dying on the runway after the game, sky didnt report that one though funnily enough, it was the munich anniversary year aswell s similar ) and I fear a few will use this as an excuse to do the same again. We can only hope it doesnt happen.
Stop attempting to take the moral high ground UIR, firstly yes i'm old enough to remember the sick Munich song being sung at Anfield so yes it did happen sadly. Any Utd fan going to OT in 1981('decades' ago)will remember Old Trafford's hordes celebrating the death of Bill Shankly which you conveniently swept under the moralistic carpet and as far as i know Utd have never apologised for it. As for you calling for this thread to be closed, have you called for the hate threads on the Utd board to be closed?, such as http://www.not606.com/showthread.ph...lty-decision-with-grace?p=3541095#post3541095 Just asking like.
You lot is you lot on here. If you suggest I am on a wind up I personally see your post of a denial Liverpool ever did wrong. Its asif I have angered you by daring to suggest Liverpool should also apologise instead of brushing it aside. If you want the clubs to ever come to some form of peace then Liverpool acting like they have never done anything isnt the way to do it.
Good, someone who actually admits that this is far older than the past few weeks ( which is how the media is trying to play it really ). I make no mention of United not doing this either. Granted I didnt mention it either. United fans also sand 'wheres your famous munich song' in the first United game after Hillsborough to taunt Liverpool fans who had chanted about Munich. Quite sick in my opinion.
Page reads my post, has a dig but says yes, it happened. Not proud. Other Liverpool fans have said the same. You just call me a wum. Think we know which category you fall into. Its quite easy t see who falls where in threads like this. Those who like half truths, part of the story and only what suits them. Or those who want both sides, the whole story and what suits everyone best. To add, if I am talking about specific people or numbers of fans I always mention it. I have no issue telling you and slevin that you shouldnt be anywhere near this thread considering how you enjoy jokes about munich. I have done so before. You lot means you lot on here. I sometimes call you LFC fans, Liverpool board members or the Liverpool lot. Hope that clears up any confusion you may have here today, Davidako
Oh and the only generalising has been done by Liverpool fans regarding this issue. Plenty of posts, including some of the better posters have posted how they now consider all United fans the same. Granted this was immediately after the game and the Sky report but still. We were all the same even though the 2000 ( Sky said 200 but what do we know, we have all just seem a blurry mobile video of the TV ) represent less than 1% of United fans in this country never mind worldwide.
Think I have used the word victim twice on this forum, both today. And I am certain I have condemned United fans several times. Thats the difference between me and you really.
Forced to sing. By who. They chose to react to the morons in the Liverpool end. It was a choice. You are aware of what a choice is aren't you?
They were ( *200 not 2000 as Sky said, infact as the Liverpool fan on talksport said, you can United fans hanging their heads over these idiots ) provoked and chose to react like morons tend to react to other morons. I suppose that means we are in agreement. * How ever many they were idiots, 2, 200, 2000
And you prove my point perfectly. ALL ALL ill repeat ALL of my posts on this subject over 3-4 threads have been about how no excuse can EVER be made for chanting or plane gestures of any tragedy. Not retaliation, not provocation: NOTHING. I have criticised people on both sides for attempting that. Wrong is wrong. And yet you ignore that. And laughably while accusing me of it (with absolutely no evidence) you yet again have in a post in between done exactly that , wittered on about provocation. If I thought you'd genuinely thought that I'd criticise you but you merely say it to get a reaction. So I accuse you specifically again; for using this subject as yet another excuse as a wind up on this board. And I warn you that I'll no longer take any discussion about the subject from you as serious. I'll tit for tat with you but only to repeatedly state that you are using this subject for shallow and pathetic purposes.
So you saying bith sides have their idiots and its wrong is fine but me saying the exact same thing is me being a WUM. Go think very hard about that one DF. I have said both are idiots all along and not once justified it.
Simple way to clear this up is to...FIGHT!!! No seriously, United sang about Bill Shankly, Liverpool started singing about Munich, United fans start singing about Heysel and Hillsborough BUT - THey also sing "Where's your famous Munich song?" Isn't this provocation? Enticing LFC Fans into mocking the dead of the Munich disaster? Isn't that in itself just sick and twisted? Who provoked whom? Looks to me like United started the whole damn thing chanting during YNWA before kick, chanting during the game "Where's your famous Munich song?" and then have the audacity to accuse a 'single' Liverpool fan for 'provoking' them - Not a chance! From start to finish there was only ever one intention on the behalf of the away section. You may also want to consider that given the Mics would probably have been off by the time the sick chants started, it would indicate more than a few hundred United fans were singing! A brilliant quote I read yesterday 'To permit is to promote!' If you want to cry provocation and claim it was the Liverpool fan who encouraged the United fans to start singing, have a look at your own morals and re-evaluate your own beliefs!
United fans chanting through YNWA was brilliant. They had every right. You sing it before every game and United fans will chant through it every time. Its got nothing to do with the recent events so you cant complain about that one.
I am not compaining, I am stating facts! These are facts that cannot be argued with - One day, ONE DAY you lot couldn't let the song go without disrespecting the families of those victims! And what about the other issue UIR, I see you picked on the one piece of my comment you could substantiate any degree of truth!
Nah that was just something I thought wasnt an issue. Think you are the only one to mention it that I have seen. and no, not one day, never. Its Liverpool footballs clubs adopted anthem and not a song sang as a mark of respect so its fair game really. Plus its rubbish but thats for a different thread on a different day I will reply to the rest of your post later, off to listen to some thump thump thump music and play FIFA for a while.
What you actually mean is you'll wait for a fellow United fan to post and then you'll jump on the back of that because you know what I said makes perfect sense. There is no argument whatsoever for the disgusting provocative behaviour portrayed on Sunday by the away section at Anfield!
