1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Suso

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by luvgonzo, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. OzzieAssaidi

    OzzieAssaidi New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2012
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    2
    Suso was a breath of fresh air when he came on as a sub. He took United by surprise, no wonder their players wanted to kick him up into the air.
     
    #21
  2. CCC

    CCC Poet Laureate

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    96
    Stevie is always on the same wave length as really good players. Him and Owen had the same almost telepathic understanding as Macca and God had in their pomp. Later he forged a similar understanding with both Torres and Alonso. He works well with Suarez, and now similarly does with Allen.

    Quality players almost always gel with each other. <ok>
     
    #22
  3. So why is Torres so **** at Chelsea then...? As was Shevchenko...?
     
    #23
  4. CCC

    CCC Poet Laureate

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    96
    There are always exceptions...<ok>
     
    #24
  5. OzzieAssaidi

    OzzieAssaidi New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2012
    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    2
    There is a reason why Torres is struggling at Chelsea, they don't have the players around him to get the best out of him. It doesn't take a genius to work out that in order to get the best out of Torres, is to play Mata in a free role just behind him with two offensive players either side of him too. However Di Matteo seems to think that the best option is to have Lampard behind him. In terms of mobility, a dustbin is more mobile than Lampard.
     
    #25
  6. CCC

    CCC Poet Laureate

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    96
    I think the system is probably partly to blame. Hazard and Mata playing will certainly help Torres in the long run.

    But Torres is the epitome of a confidence striker. IMHO, if he gets some confidence back, and Chelsea get the system right, he'll be a massive asset once more.
     
    #26
  7. DayDoDoeDontDayDoe

    DayDoDoeDontDayDoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    3,660
    Likes Received:
    27
    Rumour is both Sahin and Henderson start tomorrow, but Suso doesnt.Rumour is Suso is going to START in the Shelvey position v Norwich
     
    #27
  8. Hazard, Mata and Oscar behind Torres would get him scoring <ok>
     
    #28
  9. CCC

    CCC Poet Laureate

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Messages:
    5,340
    Likes Received:
    96
    Yeah, only a matter of time before they figure that out. I still think they'll finish 3rd behind both Manc clubs. They have the potential to do better, perhaps, but I still think they'll hit a bad patch during this season, whereas I think the Manchester clubs will be more consistent.
     
    #29
  10. Milk Milk

    Milk Milk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2011
    Messages:
    2,078
    Likes Received:
    35
    I prefer when people don't mention Suso because I get "Su-so-Studio" stuck in my head every time I read his name.
     
    #30

  11. BCR

    BCR Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    23,258
    Likes Received:
    744
    Just say the word...
     
    #31
  12. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    29,130
    Likes Received:
    7,824
    Torres is a place who thrives on running into space. With Chelsea's system, they have a few players who are high up the pitch, therefore it restricts the open space for Torres to run into and plus he has lost that bit of pace.

    It does show that Torres is a very one dimensional striker - but when he was on form, that one dimension was truly devastating.
     
    #32
  13. What about when people mention Agger? Do you think of Agadoo? <laugh>

    ...is the bird? <whistle>
     
    #33
  14. But we push and pressured opposition high up the pitch when Torres got his goals for us, that style is better for him! I have always maintained that his pace was a good weapon but it was his acceleration that was so explosive and damaging to the opposition <ok>
     
    #34
  15. LucasPrime

    LucasPrime Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2012
    Messages:
    727
    Likes Received:
    5
    Crespo, Shevchenko and Torres. Chelsea, It's where the worlds best strikers go to completely fail and ruin their reputation only to be replaced at the next transfer window.
     
    #35
  16. Redbrynner

    Redbrynner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2011
    Messages:
    3,514
    Likes Received:
    285
    Skrtel makes me think of little round sweets
     
    #36
  17. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    29,130
    Likes Received:
    7,824
    He was brilliant at running in behind defences. Now, he doesn't have that space to run into.

    But agreed on acceleration <ok>
     
    #37
  18. He was great at running in behind the defences but that is more for counter-attacking, something we was very good at when the opposition had a set-piece. Mascherano was instrumental in this too.

    However, when we had the ball the opposition would drop deep because of Torres so he had to make space in other ways. He used to always stop the ball almost dead before a quick burst to give himself half a yard to shoot. IMO, this was his best weapon and this is what he seems to be lacking from his game after all the injuries <ok>
     
    #38
  19. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2011
    Messages:
    29,130
    Likes Received:
    7,824
    Ok you're depressing me now! I miss those days :(
     
    #39
  20. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    108,809
    Likes Received:
    68,554
    I would welcome that give the lad 3 games while Shelvey is out.
     
    #40

Share This Page