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  1. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    Who is tracking the staking and returns? How much was staked on each today?
     
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    Staked 2 x 1pt

    Returns 4.5pt

    Profit 2.5pt
     
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  3. samslunch

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    The software does it automatically so i have no idea, i just have to type in how much i want to profit.
     
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    Are these SP. If it's clear what horses will be first and second favs might there not be opportunities to back them at better odds. Eg if one is shortening and one is drifting grab the one that's shortening and wait a bit to grab a better price for the one that's drifting. Not guaranteed but could end up getting better than SP on both. If software is being used to place the bets it should be able to get the best odds on the exchanges (if better odds available). There is some pretty sophisticated software that can be used on the exchanges.

    I still think that the safest way to guarantee a profit is to use some very slick software to spot races where the whole field can be backed to make a small profit whatever the result. Nothing to do with horse racing but with the exchanges, horse racing is a very good place for this type of exercise, particularly with betting in running as a possible hedger.
     
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    Are you specifying a profit on the race or an accumulative profit. If the latter, you have to place a large amount of money for this system to take out of your account and, after a losing run, what happens if it wants to take out £5k (say) and the funds aren't there?
     
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    nope, they are backed within the last minute, they are the live odds, so you can actually bet on the real 1st and 2nd fave.
     
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    the official result was the 1st fave, just checked on the racing post
     
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    RP is wrong I think you will find. ATR and SL give Van whatsit as the winner. Just watched the race and it was the clear winner.
     
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    So does this mean i can carry on tomorrow ron, putting up the races, i mean.
     
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    You will need specify exactly what the bet was before the off sam, so how much was staked on each selection and at what odds, otherwise it's impossible for us to verify it's success or failure. The big problem you are going to have explaining is that the software does the calculating hence the "we do the betting for you". why would you be marketing this to anyone? all you need do is keep using it and banking the winnings.
     
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    I'm not marketing it, I'm just looking for like minded people, like yourself's. I could just keep it to myself, but i want to share and document it with everyone.
     
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  12. samslunch

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    yep a clear profit on a single race, and with the 5k part, there is a stoploss system in place so i don't go beyond a certain limit of my choice, I also found out today the software will stop after a winning race and not carry on betting. Get in!!! You learn something new everyday, hey.
     
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    Yes you may carry on posting the races but, as Blue says, if you can't specify the requested profit, stakes and the odds on each horse before the race it will probably not be of interest. How do you decide how much profit you need. If you have lost (say) 5 successive bets you would need to stake pretty high. With your stop loss in place, this will mean that, at some time, you will be unable to stake enough to secure the profit you need. Personally I think you could end up losing a lot of money.
     
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    The profit, you add into the software. The profit, odds and stakes are all done by the software, so there is no way i can put these up ahead of time before the race starts.
     
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    Sorry Sam, I think you wasting your time with this forum. It's even beginning to sound like a wind up now. Either that or possibly you are off your rocker.
     
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    I've just received my first award, yeh!

    I'll try and do what you asked for, not sure how i'm going to do it. how else will I be able to prove my system works?....I've done the same thing for 10 years, that's got to be a sign that it works. The same races win over and over, 1st or second fave, no matter of the odds, stakes or even the weather, check it out for yourselfs. Their is a trend that the same races wins first or second fave.
     
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    Woof bark! Over there!

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  18. samslunch

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    OK OK forget it, but it's your loss, i wont put any more races up, i'll probably get banned again.
     
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  19. Ron

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    You won't get banned for putting up races Sam. I just think you are wasting your time if you can't provide the info before the race. But i don't speak for anyone other than myself. It's up to you.
     
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    Just read the past few posts

    Sam you say you been doing this for 10 years and yet a couple of posts earlier you said you learnt something new about the software today. Something doesnt add up and I don't reckon your profits do either.
     
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