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Idiot john on clyde still banging on about prize money

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  1. Albatross

    Albatross Well-Known Member

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    This incredibly stupid old man is phoning everybody about rfc prize money from the SPL last season. The answer is in his question......PRIZE MONEY. Rfc by going into Administation were in breach of the SPL regulations and as such forfeit any prize money.
    The stupid old fecker is quoting the media saying that CG gave up his claim to the money.
    1. It was NEVER HIS MONEY. It would have been awarded to rfc now defunct and in liquidation.
    2. Due to the fact that rfc breached the competition rules and regulations they forfeit the money, subsequently, no one else has a claim on it. The money still belongs to the SPL, who decided to divide it among the other competing clubs on a performance related basis.
    3. Rfc breached the rules of the competition by going into admin and as such the creditors have no right to the money. CHARLES GREEN NEVER HAD A CLAIM IN THE PRIZE MONEY. The media just quoted the idiot who continues to pull the wool over the eyes of the sevconians, whose IQ is matched only by their shoe size.

    The shameful thing in all of this, is that the media and pundits on Clyde are unaware of this situation, as outlined above. ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL.

    At least they now have it right over the Nimmo panel who are investigating Dual Contracts, however they are wrong to say that innocent managers and players will suffer if titles and trophies are stripped. WHAT ABOUT THE PLAYERS, FANS AND MANAGERS OF CLUBS WHO HAVE BEEN CHEATED OUT OF THE TROPHIES???
     
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  2. Mind The Duck

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    The sooner we have fan based radio stations the better
     
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  3. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    We already do.

    The podcasts are bang up to date (depending on when you listen to them) and far better informed.

    During last season, their final one in existence, they paid no National insurance contributions, no Value Added Tax and income tax. This is against SPL regulations.......

    In their last season in existence Rangers signed several players and improved the contracts of several others. Rangers elected to steal from every man, woman and child in the U.K rather than sell a few players to legitimately fund their club.

    So of course they shouldn't be rewarded for cheating. This is what they received a transfer ban for.

    I have no idea why anyone would think that Sevco should get their paws on the money. They have nothing to do with it. Just ask Chico Verde.
     
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  4. DevAdvocate

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    Sadly I heard John drone on and on and on and on and on forever asking a question that no one knows the answer to apart from the Owner of his club, Duff and Phelps and some suits from the SPL and SFA. This guy phones Clyde every other night it seems to ask the same question, if he is so determined to find out what happened to Rangers FC's prize money why does he simply not write and ask Charles Green or someone else instead of having a go at Mark Guidi for not trying to find out?

    I am as big a critic of the MSM as the next man, but they don't deserve to have to put up with muppets like this John fellow asking hacks to leap to his beck and call.
     
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  5. RebelBhoy

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    Timmy Thomson did for Chris Graham.......Chris Graham didn't like the answer and has whinged and bitched at him ever since.
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

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    Have we heard anything of Mr Graham recently? I hear he is now involved in some official capacity at Rangers, I fear for their future PR if he is to be cast in the role of a "average" Gers fan.

    God help them.
     
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  8. Big Audio Dynamite

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    i dont play 1 arm bandits....
     
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  9. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, He was having a shy at Thomson this very day on his twitter machine.



    Chris Graham ‏@ChrisGraham76
    Just watched @alextomo doorstep K McKenzie. Some people when they have a mid life crisis buy a Porsche. Alex has decided to act like a ned.

    @ChrisGraham76 I'm not into cars Chris, but you're not defending KM on Hillsboro are you?

    Chris Graham ‏@ChrisGraham76
    @alextomo No he's a horrible bastard, but then so apparently are you. Think that behaviour is making families feel any better? Disgraceful.
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    Classy, calling Alex Thomson "a horrible bastard". What a tit.
     
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  11. RebelBhoy

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    A failed attempt at a back track. I think the Hillsborough families would be fairly pleased that a credible, respectable journalist is giving Kelvin McKenzie a hard time and making life a little uncomfortable for him.

    What was it Francis the Tank said about Graham the other week? If he is the best they have got...and if they think he is the best they have got then it is little wonder they keep getting hoodwinked so easily.
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

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    Graham is the voice of reason apparently, as I said, God help them.

    As for Kelvin MacKenzie I would not piss on that prick if he was on fire, a heinous loud mothed braggart of an individual, the very epitome of the bad hack. Him and Leggo would get on like a house on fire.
     
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  13. DevAdvocate

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    His most recent blog post, more holes than a tramp's vest but suffice to say he focuses on one EBT at Celtic whilst feverishly attempting to make a comparison with the 87 or so that Rangers FC operated.


    The news that Celtic have been cleared of any culpability for the EBT they used for Juninho in the 2004/2005 season comes as no surprise to those of us who have followed this case and the people prosecuting it. However, I do feel it is worth highlighting as it is yet another example of the hypocrisy and corruption at the SPL.


    It is worth noting some things regarding the operation of EBT schemes. The issue of whether tax was paid on the EBTs has nothing to do with the SPL investigation into Rangers. The issue is purely whether the loans from the EBT scheme for players were declared to the SPL and SFA and whether they required to be declared.


    It is clear that Rangers did not specifically declare them because they do not consider them to be payments. The whole point of the scheme is that they are loans. That leaves us only with the question of whether they required to be declared i.e were they payments. Now, those who demand Rangers be punished like to muddy the waters by talking about HMRC, unpaid tax, sporting advantage and higher moral considerations. The only consideration for the SPL, however, is were they payments and were they declared.


    The SPL have decided that Rangers have a case to answer. Today they have decided that Celtic do not. This is curious in relation to the above since, on the 23[SUP]rd[/SUP] May, the BBC claim to have written to all SPL clubs asking about use of EBTs. The following is exactly what they were told.
    “BBC Scotland Investigates wrote to all of the Scottish Premier League’s member clubs and asked whether they had ever operated an EBT scheme.
    Celtic confirmed that it established one EBT scheme in April 2005, which BBC Scotland understands was for the benefit of the Brazilian midfielder Juninho Paulista. The scheme was worth £765,000 but the club did not declare the trust payment to the Scottish Football Association or the Scottish Premier League.


    The payments made to the trust were declared in Celtic’s annual report for 2004/2005, but in 2008 the club became aware of an event giving rise to a potential tax liability which was subsequently paid after agreement with HMRC.


    The remaining 10 SPL clubs replied and confirmed they had never set up an EBT scheme for any of their employees.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18169502
    Now it is quite clear from this that Celtic did operate an EBT and they did not declare it to the SPL or SFA as part of Juninho’s registration. This makes the case absolutely identical to the Rangers case. So why is there no case to answer? That is a difficult question. Celtic like to claim it is because they paid the tax that HMRC felt was due for the use of the EBT. This appears to be true but does not in any way impact on the registration issue. Either the EBT was declared on the registration or it was not. The issue of tax paid is one for HMRC.


    When considering this, we need to know who actually investigated on behalf of the SPL. At the moment we don’t. It is well documented that Rod McKenzie of Harper MacLeod has conducted the investigation into Rangers. Harper Macleod are the SPL lawyers on this matter so it seems likely to be the case that they would have examined the Celtic case too. They can’t have though, because that would be as clear a case of conflict of interest as you could ever get. Harper Macleod are also Celtic lawyers and it would be unethical and utterly absurd for them to have been involved here.
    So who at the SPL decided there was no case to answer? Was another law firm employed to investigate Celtic? If so, then why was this firm not also used to investigate Rangers given the issues with Rod McKenzie and Celtic’s lawyers doing so? If the BBC information is correct then how did these nameless investigators come to the conclusion that the evidence did not need to be examined by an ‘independent’ tribunal? It is clearly an identical situation.


    Let me be absolutely clear. I think the SPL made the correct decision regarding Celtic. The idea that a sporting advantage was gained from EBTs is absurd. EBTs could never have been declared to the SPL because doing so would have rendered the whole point of them, a tax benefit, unavailable.

    In a competition where there is no salary cap on players, the rules on registration exist purely to protect players and ensure that in areas of dispute the players can show exactly what they are contractually due. To my knowledge, no Rangers or Celtic players are complaining that they did not receive payments they were due.


    The SPL investigation is a sham. It is an excuse to further attack Rangers. There is no sporting advantage, no ‘financial doping’, no match fixing. The fact that a player is being paid is important because that is why registration is needed – how much they are being paid is totally irrelevant. These claims are absurd and have been made specifically to inflame public opinion ahead of a pre-determined verdict.


    If the SPL got it absolutely correct on Celtic then the question should be why are they pursuing Rangers? The answer to that lies with the people conducting the witch hunt and it is about time the media in this country started doing their job and asked the required questions.
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

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    To be absolutely fair, the first sentence is spot on accurate.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

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    True <laugh>
     
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    After his (and his "attack sheep") comparing Thomson to McKenzie, a few Liverpool/Hillsborough twitter accounts absolutely bollocked him and, as per el scriptos, he blocked them.

    When queried about it by some "justice for the 96" account, he claimed that Thomson made fun of the Ibrox disaster - a double-jointed charge that Thomson himself was batting off from deluded nutcases all day.

    His other thing yesterday was to push for Turnbull Hutton to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute <laugh>

    He embodies the angry wee cockless Rangers fan trying desperately to take everyone down with him.

    He's got a son.

    It's kind of sad.
     
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    Chris Graham &#8207;@ChrisGraham76
    @alextomo No he's a horrible bastard, but then so apparently are you. Think that behaviour is making families feel any better? Disgraceful.

    Lyn Matthews Lyn Matthews &#8207;@trannymum
    @ChrisGraham76 @alextomo Well it certainly made our family feel better. It was great seeing that man get a taste of his own medicine.
    As someone whose son only just survived Hillsborough, seeing him being harangued felt very good. He deserves all he gets.

    <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

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    Bigots
     
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  20. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    Does this not show what an insular arsehole this spunkstain is?

    His thought process appears to be:

    He also re-tweeted one of his minions yesterday saying that the doorstepping "proved" he'd got that interview out of Hugh Adam under duress.

    I'm glad I'm not on that horrible planet <ok>
     
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