Great defense, isn't it? Taking the word of someone whose chosen profession is only out-lied by religious leaders and, axiomatically, journo's!
Every time macKenzie appeared on Question Time I posted a link to the BBC complaints department on the old 606. Do you know what? they banned me!
What the majority of you are saying is perfectly true. Sorry is a very easy word to say, if it's not from the heart then it means absolutely not one jot.
Exactly. Funny how the queue to say sorry became so long yesterday all of a sudden. What's not surprising is hearing SYP, The S*n, Mckenzie etc still blaming their disgusting behaviour on others. These people are only sorry that their behaviour has been exposed...and thank god it finally has.
Yes, in all fairness it does, bottom left. it's a 4 page spread with an unreserved appology in it apparently. The Sun is a ****e newspaper but I don't know what else they could have printed today that would have put right what they printed 23 years ago.
The Daily Express - nothing, but nothing will get in the way of their campaigns against foreigners and for the Royal Family.
The apology in The S*n is pathetic really. Basically blaming everything on the SYP for misinformation. However other papers would have been fed this information by the SYP also but the S*n were the ones who ran it. They only have themselves to blame the classless bastards.
A spur in peace. No excuse for the Sun and what they wrote, who no doubt iced the cake...but where did the cake come from? they were fed some stories from SYP spokesman Paul Middup and this bloke... http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...ighthood-says-mp_n_1877459.html?utm_hp_ref=uk My point here is that it is now time to ask the mouthpieces Middup & Patnick, who told them?, and keep asking down the line, at the end of it we'll find a very small number of faceless scrotes in an office...or boardroom! who actually used the words we all read back then. McKenzie and the other 2 sanctioned what was printed but there are other arseholes who should be brought out in the open aswell.
I'm not saying that anyone from Liverpool should ever forgive The Sun under any circumstances, because even if they "genuinely" believed that their information was reliable, the way in which they portrayed the lot of you was unacceptable. BUT. There is now the very real possibility that the local media, MP and senior police officers did lie to them to somewhere near the extent that they have always claimed. Let me be crystal clear, they are scum for what they printed, even if that element of their argument is entirely true. But now that we are moving away from the truth and onto justice, it's important to make that distinction. Much like the Taylor Report with regard to stadium safety, the Leveson Inquiry must ensure that the tone in which The Sun distorted what they were told 23 years ago can never be allowed to happen again. Let me explain that: if Hillsborough were to happen in 2012, the stadium would likely never open again, and the club involved would likely go to the wall, and I want Leveson to have a similar effect with regards to the publication of stories such as "The Truth" (there are others along those lines, such as the stuff that led to Piers Morgan losing his job at The Mirror). But if we are talking about justice for the cover up, the question surely has to be how can an MP, a police force etc can get away with feeding the lies that they did. News Corp's actions over the last few decades (not just in relation to Liverpool) show that press regulation is needed, but within reason, the point at which a newspaper can't rely on the word of those sorts of people is the point at which it's difficult to have a free press at all.
The S*n had little choice but to run today's story. Fair enough they have finally done the right thing but it is a case of too little too late in many peoples eyes. Their hand has been forced into it too. If they had run an apology story when Kenny told them too, it would have been very different. Hell, it would have been different had they done it last year rather than waiting until they had to do something! I understand the comments in saying that they was just reporting what they had been told but it has been clear for years that it was completely out of order so why right so long to correct it?
I hope the 23 year boycott of that vile rag is maintained and/or intensified until it disappears altogether.
Don't believe anything these politicians say. You honestly think these MP's are really sorry about what happened? Why did it take years and years for the truth to be forcefully revealed. Why did none of these senior mp's stand up at any time since it happened and demanded that the files be revealed to the public?
Yeah gobsh!te Straw trying to score a political point on the back of this report.Mind you only to be expected from him,never done F*** all for me mate who was inprisoned and tortured in Saudi for something he hadn't done.
My personal view-point is that I would still never touch the scummy rag, but I don't feel there is a real reason to actively campaign against them anymore. I'd much prefer that action is taken to police all media and in particular the press. I will never buy any newspaper, because they all have an opinion and they all put a slant on it. None of them just report the news and give you facts. Is the Sun really any worse than the Daily Mail? I personally will never forgive the Daily Mirror for printing a picture of fans crushed up against the fencing, not just on their front page but it wrapped right around the back too, it was graphic and gratuitous and did not respect the pain and suffering of those people. If Liverpool fans still have the gumption and drive to fight this fight, I think they should just generalise it to fight the ultra-low standards of all of the papers, and not just pick on the lowest level.
We do need a free press, but with that freedom comes responsibility. The Sun could have shown more restraint than that sensationalist headline, within the report it should have made it perfectly clear that it was reporting opinion as it was offered to it and that it was not corroborated fact. They should subsequently have given equal coverage to the objections made against that story. Yes, it is still shocking the extent to which the Police and other authority figures will go to cover their own backs, but surely it is the task of a free and investigative press to dig around and look for these lies? As bad as that headline was, the greater crime, in my opinion, was that nobody subsequently made any effort to investigate the veracity of the claims- in fact they resolutely stood by them despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. Nothing new came out yesterday other than the size and details of the cover-up. What we've had is proof of the things we've known all along. There were thousands of people there that day, there were cameras all over the place, surely any scrutiny of the footage and interviewing of eyewitnesses would have led to serious doubts over the official line? It's easy for the current people at the paper to apologise because everyone knows that they aren't the ones responsible. The apologies of those who were responsible are hollow after all these years.
