Journalists can see through Gill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ar...ant-cash-curbs-scared-City-Martin-Samuel.html

Let's hope some of the other clubs can see it for precisely what it is

 

Maybe you should try posting on your own board every now and again, it may shake off the cobwebs and spark and actual debate for a change!

 

Talking to myself would hardly spark debate now would it?

 

Ah, Martin Samuel quoting Dave Whelan as a source of facts. That's like Rafa Benitez quoting Nostradamus...

 

He does have a point though doesn't he?

 

True, but I think the big point from the article is:

"Whelan, as chairman of Wigan Athletic, supports the plan. Some smaller clubs’ owners do because they think it will mean spending less and lead to greater competition at the lower end."

You can't deny that the spending of City and Chelsea has made it harder for the smaller clubs to stay afloat. Whelan's probably in the ideal position to verify this - Wigan were financially secure when they joined the PL, and reached the League Cup final. Since then they've had to spend more and more, and build up more and more debt, just to keep pace with the rapid wage inflation as increased spending has filtered down the league.

As for the "cosy monopoly" Utd are supposed to want to create, prior to the start of large scale financial doping in 2004, Utd were consistently in the top two, and finished no lower than 3rd. Following the start of large scale financial doping, Utd are still consistently in the top two, and have still finished no lower than 3rd.

 

Not really, Dave Wheelan is the same bloke that said Fergie had told him he would retire at the end of this season. He also is the same bloke that said Roberto Martinez was going to be the next Liverpool Manager.

I think he's the type of guy that makes his own guess at whats happenning and then presents it as fact. If United were fronting this idea because they were scared of City, a team we lost the league to on goal difference alone last season then surely more people than Dave (it's all in his head) Wheelan would be talking about it.

 

I certainly don't believe Gill is pushing this for the common good of all.
Don't see how it can possibly help any of the smaller clubs and will undoubtedly increase the elite's stranglehold of the prize money available.Negotiating tv rights is also logical to follow on in the near future

 

Scared of City?

There was no need to read any further.

City are scared of United. you know without you billions you are nothing.

 

If it helps even one club survive by regulating their spending then its a good thing.

Perhaps it would of benefited the old now defunct man city who had shocking finances.

 

Scared of Utd?
Get a grip

 

ORLY?

Tell us how each new player you sign doesnt have a dig at United or how you didnt make a massive poster when Tevez signed or how you didnt chuck massive wages at players United were after in fear that without it you would have no chance of signing them.

You are terrified and have been for decades. The money has given you a platform to compete with us these days but the reality is you still look up to United.

Your owners plans are to become the best and biggest club in the land and then the world...............which would be trying to emulate United ( especially considering at the time of take over we probably were the best team in the world ).

You are kidding yourself if you dont think the actions of city were done out of fear of not being able to better United no matter what you spent. It eventually took £930million ( About 10 clubs in the PL could split that money and be healthy ) to beat us by a few goals. Probably not how the owners, manager, players and fans thought it was going to happen. Bet you expected a 10 point gap at least then BOOM, United are right there, reminding you that the tiniest slip up, a brief lack of form and we will be there, always.

 

He probably isn't pushing it for the common good of all, but then what club or business ever pushes for something that is in the common good? Equally City are only opposing this cos if the proposals are implemented they will not have the financial clout to challenge for the title any more. Ultimately, the only way the proposal will pass is if it is in the common good, as at least 14 clubs have to vote in favour for it to be accepted by the PL as a whole.

I don't agree it will increase the elite's stranglehold. Remember that this stranglehold only came about after Chelsea were taken over by Abramovich. Prior to 2004 the top four spots were taken by any number of clubs - Forest, Wednesday, Blackburn, Newcastle, Norwich etc, and the UEFA Cup / CWC were open to all. Since 2004 Chelsea's spending has pushed the prizes out of reach of all but the richest clubs. The league is ridiculously predictable now - you can practically name the top eight in pre season.

As for TV rights, I reckon that issue would be set aside if the FFP rules came in. The only reason Utd and Liverpool would want separate TV rights would be to counter the vast amounts of extra cash Chelsea and City have. If they don't have so much extra cash then there is no need to skew the TV deals - Utd in particular have always been opposed to splitting up the TV rights deal, even under the Glazers.

 

Every ex rag you can find has had a dig at city in the last couple of years and the Tevez poster was only banter,where's your spine?
It's fairly obvious if you are a club that have won **** all for decades,to entice quality players to come to the club,the wages would initially need to be bigger than everyone else's to attract players be they mercenaries or generally greedy sods
Why on earth would we have been terrified of utd for decades? We weren't on each others radar for over 30 years,hardly significant to one another.So far we've shown we can live with utd on the pitch,what's to be scared about?
Of course out owners want the club to be a major player in world football,if they have the resources at their disposal why shouldn't they aim big? As regards to emulating utd,that's never going to be possible whatever money is put in as I've no doubt they are fully aware
It's not all about utd,you exaggerate your importance.Of course we want to compete at that level where utd play but no more than Chelsea or Arsenal want to be competing at.
Funny how you mention gaps and slipping up at the end.Oh the irony

 

I don't for a minute think you truly believe any of that swarbs.
All Gill is doing is protecting utds interests and trying to minimise the competition
What it will mean for the smaller clubs is the likes of jack walker or jack heywood at wolves wouldn't be able to put his own money in to see his club rise out of the doldrums.
Although understandable as a business ploy it's frankly a disgrace
If FFP was brought in with the protection of football clubs rather than maintaining the status quo then I believe all would be in favour of it.

 

In all fairness, its not Manchester United that City want to emulate. They would want to emulate Manchester United if Manchester United were the most decorated club in England, and English footballs most successful in Europe. They aren't, that belongs to Liverpool and will always belong to Liverpool.

 

I heard Tampax want to sponsor Liverpool, they are perfect for ****s going through a bad period.

 

All City have spoken about is United.

Deny it as much as you like but you cant help but talk about United.

 

Liverpool's European success is tainted though. Unless you think those lives were worth it

 

That makes absolutely no sense chronologically.. understand ? Should be an instant ban also.

Little sick uppity wannabe small club supporters. Londons only ec winners, the most pathetic attempt at clutching at greatness I guess we're Liverpool's only EC\CL 5 time winners, no we're something far bigger than that. We're Liverpool Football Club Now fk off you complete twat

RA's money has the stink of murder death all over it.