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Fabregas frustrated at Barcelona

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Sign Da Ting, Sep 4, 2012.

  1. Sanj

    Sanj Well-Known Member

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    Cazorla would not get a game for City? He is twice the player Nasri is and he manages to get into their team.
     
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  2. Wenger's Optician

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    What a stupid comment, even Milner manages to get games for City.

    And I remain unconvinced by Chelsea, they were lucky to win at home to Reading and and got humiliated by Atletico.
     
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  3. Master Yoda

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    He might rotate with Nasri but Silva, Yaya Toure and Tevez are just as good if not better as attacking mids.

    Think you might not want to admit that Nasri is quality also!

    Milner is a completely different type of player to Carzorla, they get pitch time for different reasons. Silly comment.
     
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  4. seanDCFC

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    All of the players you mentioned apart from higuain would get plenty of games at Barca. If sanchez and pedro can then these players definitely would.
     
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  5. Sanj

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    Nasri is a very good player, but he has one massive flaw in his game. He moves the ball way too slowly and is very ponderous. The French media and fans gave him plenty of stick for the way he moved the ball in the Euro's, hence the foul mouth reaction from Nasri. Also he did the same thing for City and for us. Cazorla is better than Nasri at most aspects of the game. Nasri probably has the edge in dribbling but apart from that he has nothing on Cazorla.
     
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  6. Master Yoda

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    True, he does like to hold possession. I'd agree he's better on the ball but hasn't got Carzorla's vision or execution. Nasri, Aguero, Tevez and Silva do however form a very, very formidable quartet.

    Pedro and Sanchez are both fantastic players.

    I also said 'wouldn't start' ie not first team - which they wouldn't be. David Villa can't get a starting place right now for goodness sake, and he's a much better inside forward than Higuian, Benzema etc will ever be.
     
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  7. Krome

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    Utd havn't looked convincing for 2 years now, they somehow manage to just keep winning. As much as i hate him you have to says its down to Fergie.
    I'd agree that its too early to judge Chelsea
     
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  8. TheBear

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    Carzorla is a million times better than Nasri and in my opinion just as good as David Silva. (arguably better he's certainly more well rounded as he's more combatative and just as technically skilled.)


    Sahin is an exceptional midfielder too though but I think he'll take a few months to adjust.
     
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  9. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I'm still a bit gutted that we missed out on Sahin. If he has a good season and signs permanently for Liverpool, we could end up kicking ourselves.

    That said, we signed Cazorla, who is already demonstrating that he is top drawer <ok>
     
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  10. Jayramfootball

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    Sahin is a very good player indeed. He will make it at Madrid after his season of experience with Liverpool.

    As for Cazorla, he is better than Silva and Mata. He has more to his game. Pace, skill, shooting, beating players. He is also a good tackler, which you have not seen yet. More than anything he is very down to earth. He is a team player.
     
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  11. Kyle?

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    I wouldn't go as far as saying Cazorla is better than Silva, he's probably better than Mata, but i think as usual we're guilty of overrating our own players. Silva would walk into any team in the world.
     
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  12. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    What is it with Spanish midfielders ? They have produced so many world class players, they have the area covered.

    A little bit like England in the 80's when we had great GKs in Peter Shilton, Nigel Martin and Tim Flowers, but just loads better and more exciting <ok>
     
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  13. Sanj

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    It's truly amazing. Doubt a team has ever had a better group of attacking midfielders, than this current Spain team.
     
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  14. afcftw

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    I think Sahin is a quality player and i would have liked to see him come to Arsenal. But overall i don't think Liverpool have an amazing midfield - by no means a bad midfield, but not amazing. Any of our midfielders would start at Liverpool though.

    City have a quality midfield but Cazorla is as good as any player they have or atleast very close in quality. He would get plenty of game time (more than Nasri who does spend far too long on the ball). He is on Silva's level.

    To be honest i think most of our midfielders would start for most of the teams in the prem - even our non-first team ones!
     
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  15. afcftw

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    And Spain must be doing something very right in there coachingas a nation because the level of players they have at the moment is amazing. It's not just an international squad of 18-25 players who are good enough to win trophies but a huge amount of very talented players who can't even break into the International side!
     
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  16. Master Yoda

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    I think Silva has a good shout for being the best player in the league. He's awesome.
     
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  17. Bobby Pires

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    Silva hasn't started this season too brightly though. Not doubting his quality, he just hasn't been the same as this time last season.
     
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  18. Master Yoda

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    Tiredness I guess.
     
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  19. Eftymoore

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    I really love Arsenal, it is not or never be a one man team.

    Now the players has to get it into their head, that leaving Arsenal has being the reason of not wining things. Looking outside the club, criticizing their manager is not the solution, They should all stay and become a winner. Anyway well come back FAB if you want to rejoin us.Helb warned you, please come on time before it's too late, Flamini should now regret it for life.
     
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  20. Kyle?

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    Thats the problem though. We're not really in a position to win things. Though we do have a pretty strong squad (except strikers, where all we have is Giroud, Chamakh isn't a football player), there are 2-3 other teams with stronger squads who will inevitably beat us. If we were to sign a top drawer striker in January, we can compete.

    If we still had Van Persie to play with Cazorla and Podolski, we would be real title challengers, without a doubt.
     
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