Diakite fighting Depression...

I dont have any sympathy for booze/drugs problems, neither are diseases. If they are then so it gluttony, smoking or excessive ****ing.

 

Would have thought it unlikely, he looked fairly religious in that photo someone posted during Ramadan.

 

http://www.google.com/hostednews/uk..._JvvjonlOicOcncKQ?docId=N0034201347019002516A

Diakite Depression story quashed.

 

the journo who reported this for one thing did little or no research on the validity of it,and secondly is a dick splash

 

Do you think so Brix?

I agree that addiction may be more a result than a stand-alone issue (I'd say as a general, but not universal rule, contented people are less likely to form addictions) but I'm not so sure about it having reduced sympathy.

Alcoholism for example is very tangible compared to the spectre of depression and there is a greater list of people in macho roles that have very publicly admitted their problems (ie the Bests, Mersons and Adams of the world).

The case of homeless people tends to be shrouded in the mentality of "they brought it on themselves" rather than my liberal (surprise surprise) view of "what happened to them to put them in that position where they had no choice?"

I also think there's a difference that should be distinguished between excessive drinking and needing a drink at 7am just to get through the day.

I suppose drugs have always had a bad press and so will never muster the same sympathy despite the same route causes as alcoholism.

Oh and Flyer, I'd be very surprised if someone actually likened my addiction to Marlboro Lights to a heroine addiction.

 

I have a heroine addiction. Especially for Naomi Watts in King Kong, or Keira Knightly in POTC...

There's no reason to feel sorry for me though!

 

A few things seem a little strange about this situation.. lets assume he is depressed (im not be- littling it, its just that the club seem to say he is not suffering from depression.)
1. he is suffering from depression and we DON'T sign him. He in the future hopefully recovers and he goes to another club and plays as good as we think/hope he can then who looks stupid. The club for turning their back on a player who they have agreed to sign. Then everybody on here gives out for not sticking with him.
2.If he is depressed why does he need to go back to to France if his family are in Mali. surely if his family have moved to France it would be possible to move them to England.
3. Why do we need to send someone over to see if he is ok surely he would be treated better in uk.
4.If its a death that has caused the depression there is nothing anyone could do about it. We are assuming that this and the absence from the end of last season are linked. Maybe there are not.
5. his poor performances this season have been put down to a family member passing away if so why was he not giving time off by the club to grieve.

I HOPE the lad is not suffering from depression and is back playing for us as soon as he is in a fit state to do so. however i do not think it is as straight forward as he has depression.
I may be wrong im in no way qualified to say for sure its just my opinion that something just doesn't seem right.

 

Whatever the crack is , the lad will get the best help/treatment. I agree with a lot of what swords says. If this was a player at a rival club lets say chelsea then im sure a lot of jokes would have been made.

 

Im just pointing out alcoholism isnt a disease, otherwise you have a disease and so do junkies (well theres a fair chance they do but just being a junkie isnt a disease). Not being able to moderate is not a disease. Hell I know women who cant go 10 mins without checking facebook on their phones even when they are out with people, is that a disease too? Its just a cop out for lack of will power.

 

Bob, that would just show us up as less caring and more stupid. It wouldn't mean the illness is any less serious for the sufferer.

 

Diakite has denied beingg depressed and trained today! I think it is disgraceful that the media and QPR fans speculate and make up utter rubbish. He has confirmed he is fine and is hurt by these claims he is depressed!

 

"Frankly, I don't understand why people are starting rumours like that," he told RMC Sport. "I am fine - I have no problem. I was a bit tired and the club has allowed me to spend three days in Paris. I am not depressed.
"When I got up this morning and opened the newspapers, I learned that some said I was depressed. This is ridiculous and disappointing. I am currently in London and went in for training so [these rumours] are amazing.
"It saddens me because I received calls of concern from my family. Fortunately, I am strong because this could have serious consequences for someone weak. I want to reassure my friends and fans of QPR that all is well."

Thats great news, sounds like he may have some kind of underlying condition, perhaps related to the "virus" he had last year.

 

But surely it wouldn't matter who the sufferer is. Would there be this sympathy for a John terry? I think not. Yes we care because he's a qpr player and that is the ONLY reason.

 

I think it's the other way round. I think as QPR players, we'd have LESS sympathy for JT because of who he is and who he plays for, rather than us having MORE sympathy for Diakite because of his connection to our club.

But being a QPR player isn't the only reason we have sympathy - it's a reason but not the only one.

 

Now swords that is a bit below the belt even for you especially considering the subject. To say I am having a breakdown shows the mentality of you as a human being and I for one use to think you did tried to provoke people just for a reaction but now I am at a loss to describe what you are. I am surmising when I say this but to reply to a person who has been open about previous experiences and then to say that is pretty poor in taste and manner.

If you had seen kids scarred both mentally and physically or held a teenager hand as they pass away as due to their depression and believing their only route out was to kill themselves, then you may not have written such a comment.

 

There's a difference between physical and psychological addiction.

I think there is a psychological propensity that undermines addiction and there was something I once read about genetics that make it more or less likely. That's not to say that I don't hold myself accountable for my smoking but I'd steer well clear of anything stronger because I could get addicted to anything (and have done or nearly done in my past).

I wouldn't necessarily expect sympathy though because I'm over 30 so clearly a write-off anyway!!!

 

If you stop smoking now, you should be ok if you dont get cancer in the next couple of years. You mutate one gene for every 15 you smoke, its only pot luck if that turns into cancer or not so its never too late to give up, unless of course you already have cancer.

 

Flyer, you little ray of sunshine.

As an ex smoker (non militant branch) I can assure you that someone as eloquent as Matt fully understands the benefits of giving up.

I'm still sucking the nicotine lozenges 5 or 6 years in. Mmmmm, lovely.

Now I am really confused about what is going on with Samba, but at least it's generated this high quality thread. Judging by his (probably poorly translated) 'anger' about being described as depressed and his 'Im strong, I don't have dpression' comment, Samba is not as enlightened as nearly all on here.

 

Indeed, that's all it is mate. But there's always one or two (the same people every time) who just can't accept that others might think differently to them. You disagree with them and they blow their top off. Happens every time.

Great post.

 

Sorry to hear of the future Mrs QPR Matt's illnesses.

I've had CFS since I was 19 and it's awful, so I know how she's feeling with that.