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Diakite fighting Depression...

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Q.P.R, Sep 6, 2012.

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  1. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Totally, Turkish. Good points well made.

    And you Willy. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  2. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    P.S. Renault, I think you may be having some sort of breakdown again.

    Just relax mate.
     
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  3. UxbridgeR

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    Although I tried to I haven't been able to read my way through the whole of this thread so I apologise if this has already been said.

    Why is assumed that Diakite deceived the QPR management team? How do we know that they weren't fully aware of the problem before he signed and, seeing the potential he has as a top footballer, decided to sign him anyway? Maybe up until the Swansea game everything had seemed OK? There's a lot we don't know and we can't jump to conclusions.

    Wish Samba all the best and hopefully he'll be back in Hoops soon!
     
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  4. Swords Hoopster.

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    Well we don't know, Uxbridge. But presuming that the boy didn't deceive anyone, then if the Management knew he was suffering from this condition yet went ahead and signed him anyway, then its just backfired - dramatically. Whatever the ins and outs of it, this looks like a mess of a signing right now and Hughes should come out now and set the record straight.
     
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  5. QPAAAAAGH

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    Sorry lads but there's an awful lot of crocodile tears being shed on this topic. None of us knows Diakite personally and our interest should therefore be limited to what he does for QPR on the pitch. Instead of feeling sorry for him (there are millions of cases more deserving of our compassion regardless if its depression and/or personal problems) we should just want to know that everything possible is being done to get him available again. It disappoints me that many people are criticising perfectly reasonable football related topics (did we buy another dud) because of such over-sensitivity.
     
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  6. West London Willy

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    And if there's no record to set straight? Because the club didn't know, and Diakite didn't know? Unless I'm very much mistaken, depression isn't something that is (or can be) tested for in a football club medical prior to signing a player.
     
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  7. Swords Hoopster.

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    Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

    'AAAGH, you never fail to disappoint. <applause>
     
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  8. West London Willy

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    Sorry, I didn't realise that there was a limit to the number of people I was allowed to feel compassion for. My apologies.
     
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  9. Swords Hoopster.

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    Willy, don't go off on another crusade. People are just giving their viewpoints mate.
     
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  10. West London Willy

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    Don't start, Swords. Why do you always have to start stuff? My response above wasn't even to anything you said, although there are plenty of things that I could have posted in response to you. But I haven't, because even if you're not above that, I'm trying to be.

    However, the idea that just because there are plenty of other sad things in the world, we shouldn't feel compassion for a young man suffering from an illness is just plain dumb. and using sarcasm to point that out isn't 'going off on a crusadfe', it's drawing attention to the stupidity in the quoted post.

    Tell you what - leave me and my comments alone, and I'l do the same to you and yours. No need to reply, your actions will give the answer.
     
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  11. KooPeeArr

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    Sorry, AAAAAGH, I can subscribe to the idea of diminished sympathy based on how remote people are but I don't see you arguement as logical.

    If a your best mate told you his cousin had xxxxxx disease, would you be symathetic? Would you dismiss it as an irrelevance since you don't know him and then say "It's not going to mean I see you less?" That would be as close to the strap him up and get him on the pitch mentality you stated.

    Millions of cases more deserving from people we have even less connection to?

    If it just comes down to whether we've bought a dud or not then why should you care really - it's just some guy you don't really know wasting a few million quid on someone else you don't know - it's a mere 4% of the squad places (even less if you consider free youth places).

    Then you should ask yourself if you really care about a team run by people you don't personally know fielding a team of players you don't personally know just because you happen to know the colours we play in and where the ground is and a select few around you (who also don't know any players or the management)?

    I can understand those who say that they don't get attached to players (or those that have said they've grown out of it) but I can't understand the mentality of knowing a case of an individual (no matter how you find out) and saying that it only matters how it affects me.

    You call it crocodile tears, I call it humanity.
     
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    Every time I start to write a post for this thread I find that someone, often Matt, has said just what I was thinking.
     
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  13. The other R in Houston

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    Bloody well said Matt. And an outstanding finish as well.
     
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    Article in the independent stating the press association understands the club are disputing these claims
     
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  15. KooPeeArr

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    I will say that I usually find AAAAGH's posts very good but I couldn't find any common ground in there to work with and think it's just a fundamental difference of opinion.
     
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  16. Busy Being Headhunted

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    visiting Naawich may have made him depressed
    he will get over it
     
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  17. QPAAAAAGH

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    I'm just hoping that everyone will spare a similar amount of time and sympathy the next time you see a down and out on the tube. Some people could have done a day's charity volunteering in the time its taken their hearts to bleed on here.
     
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  18. BrixtonR

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    With all due respect to AAAAAGH, Swords and one or two others at the beginning, there's nowt wrong with this as a thread on football or any other principle subject. In fact there's everything right with the expressed levels of articulated intelligence going down on here and speaks volumes for the quality of ALL participants. I've seen us touch similar heights at times before now but this one's really impressed me. A great deal of feeling, honesty and empathy for someone we don't know personally but whose rumoured condition highlights a hidden illness that many can relate to in various ways. Great stuff as far as I'm concerned - and great to feel part of it.

    As for Nines' revelation on the clubs disclaimer. Not saying they're right or wrong but a public denial is exactly what I'd be asking them for under the same circumstances.

    Given that at base level, we're all pretty pissed off that Diakite's out of the equation for the time being, it's pretty humbling to see the levels of selfless empathy going on. Well done you lot sums my view up. Renewed my faith in not so much them Rs - but YOU Rrrrrsss!!! Cheers.
     
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  19. BrixtonR

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    Yeah but, yeah but - people generally have less sympathy when it comes to booze and/or drugs - even where they may be more effect than underlying cause. Reckon if it turns out that Diakite has a condition resulting from excessive indulgence (Adams, Merson, Best et al) the sympathy level would plummet.
     
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  20. Flyer

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    It feels like weve swung from completely ignoring it to having to tread on eggshells.

    Sure he might have lost some family, most people have but think about that young girl who hid under the bodies of her family for hours in that car in France. Now that makes me feel bad.
     
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