Diakite fighting Depression...

Unnoticed even to the boy himself?

 

Quite possibly. The symptoms of depression are seldom that obvious. It's not like other illnesses, where there are specific physical symptoms that can be noticed and acted upon.

I'm not going to start another debate with you,. Swords, but you really should go do some research into depression, its causes, its effects, and its treatment. That way, the next time you talk about it, it will be from a position of understanding.

 

The best thread I have read on a football forum. Thanks for the honesty from those who have suffered from depression. Insightful and educational.

 

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Depression/Pages/Symptoms.aspx

gives an overview which should assist you in understanding depression

 

Same could be said about football

My thoughts are with Samba and wishing him a speedy recovery. Hopefully he will come back and perform even better than before.

 

Again, that's being rather presumptuous I would say.

Reading through these posts, I think some people need a good shake. This guy is a millionaire who can afford the best treatment modern medicine can provide. The Club Doctor has flown over to him three times already. Now how many people with this condition could have a Doctor fly from another Country to their doorstep? There are millions of people far worse off than him, no doubt some in your own midst. People with depression that are living on the breadline and suffering dreadfully in silence. You'd be far better off directing your sympathies to those who don't have the expert help that this guy has.

There was a similar furore last year with an outpouring of totally misplaced sympathy towards Anton Ferdinand after he had a row with a guy on the pitch. No doubt he was lying back in his gold-plated jacuzzi when you all were fawning over him.

Some of you really need to wake up. These guys are in a totally different World to the rest of us. You can rest assured that the lad will be looked after better than 99.9% of any of us if we came down with a similar illness.

I respect everyone's opinion on this matter but I can't agree with most of what I've read.

 

Again, how bloody presumptuous are you people?!

 

In my opinion Swords, Ferdy and now Samba got/get sympathy largely due to the fact that they play for our team. Why would you not wish well for someone that represents your club? Money has nothing to do with it. The same could be said for money and depression, one does not necessarily help the other and in some cases, quite the reverse.

If one of your best friends suddenly came into a load of money, then got depressed, you would not show them any concern or wish them well? I am just trying to understand what money has to do with it.

 

Presumptuous maybe, but you're posts have given people a lot to go on when suggesting you may need to learn to be a little more understanding.

 

You've hit on a very important point there Jammers. Diakite is a person that I've never met nor particularly wish to (nor him me). Putting him on terms with a best friend is revealing in that I've noticed football fans of all teams tend to develop an attachment to their teams players almost to the point of believing they're personal friends of theirs.

The wide-spread phenomena of referring to players (people you've never met) by their first names is something I could never understand. In fact, its a constant irritant to me. To me they're just a bunch of celebrities there to entertain us. Fantastic to watch but not particularly admirable for anything other than their 90-minute football performance.

More luck to them all but I'll worry about my friends alone, not a bunch of professional footballers.

 

Depression is a very powerful illness, there can sometimes be no obvious reason for it. As someone who is starting to come out of the other side of depression, it makes you feel worthless, embarrassed to tell anyone, you can't sleep or eat properly which does the body/mind no good at all. I struggled for nine months before I opened up to anyone. So the man needs people to be there and support him not doubt what he is saying.

As for people saying he is rich how can he be depressed, you clearly know nothing about depression as it is in most cases caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, your body stops producing serotonin, so money has nothing to do with been depressed or not.

 

I take your points Swords and there are worse things that can happen and people worse off around the world.

I suppose the point is, that we historically and today, have always had the luxury of not knowing the vast, vast majority of people suffering in the world and, Mother Teresa-esque characters aside, prefer to bury our heads in the sand and ignore it (rather than risk the whole lot dragging us down).

Even if it's by association rather than personally, we do know Samba Diakite, in a small way, through his presence at a club close to our collective hearts and the sympathy and/or empathy opens up a lot of memories and wounds for a lot of people on this board. How can we not wish him well (as I'm sure you do too).

His money will make his life more confortable but there is a truism about money not buying happiness and there's a fine line between a rich person's castle (high fenced property if you will) and a prison with it's solitary confinement enforcing walls.

Take it to the nth degree - is the onset of a mortal disease worse if it affects a poor person rather a rich one? Money can buy security but it can't buy the human feelings we absolutely need to function on a daily basis. Not to say I don't wish I had more money but I know that it's no the be all and end all.

 

Furry muff mate...

I cant really disagree too much with any of what you say...it is harsh, but somewhat fair.

I still see no reason not to wish someone with depression well though, regardless of who they are or even if you dislike them.

 

We are presuming you have no knowledge of which youi speark Swords. And you have to admit, your posts on this thread have certainly given much evidence to support our presumption.

And I'm staying well clear of your statement that depression is somehow linked with racism, for all our sakes. Please, can you do the same?

 

Swords....
I have read a lot of what you have said about "money, loaded can afford best treatment etc,etc,etc", It makes no difference to the disease whether you are minted or not it strikes all people from many walks of life and be you the poorest man on earth or the richest you still need the same sympathy and help.
Just because you have money does not make your "Human Psyche " any different when you have a debillitating illness.
Let me put it too you this way GEORGE HARRISON,J.P GETTY,ARISTOTLE ONNASSIS et al, do you possibly think with all their money they would have been able to buy another second, another breath on this earth............................
the answer is NO
Therefore in reality all the money in China is no good to you when you are struck down by something beyond your control, What you need is sympathy,Love, and someone to comfort you in your time of need not somebody telling you that because you are rich and able to afford the best care in the world that you should man up and pay................!!!

I have no desire to get into a argument with you on this subject, so sometimes we have to agree to disagree and understand each others reasons for feeling as they do,
Therefore i respect your reasoning as i hope you will respect mine and others even if we are poles apart.

 

Just updated on the Telegraph too

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-depression-while-on-compassionate-leave.html

 

Well there's a 5 page thread about something that apparently is just a bad rumour! But it generated lots of good points.

 

I can see how it could have come across that way Cold. Where I'm coming from though is from a position of almost anger that the sufferings of people in the "Real World" go largely unnoticed yet we get all go weak at the knees when some superstar or other comes into difficulty. I can assure you I know what I'm talking about but I see no need to go into detail here. The injustices of society directed at the poor and vulnerable make this story look like a walk in the park.

Matt, top post. I particularly like the metaphor about the mansion being like a prison. Great writing mate. You're pushing Stan and Brix for eloquent poster of the Site at this stage!

Jammers, you're correct pal. We should still wish the chap all the best in his recovery. That was remiss of me. I'm just a grumpy old cynic.

Turkish, being a millionaire ain't going to end his depression but it certainly puts him in a better position than 99% of people suffering from the condition.

 

I was not being presumptuous but responding to comments you made during the thread regarding depression its onset and how SD did not know he may have been suffering with it. I will not reveal the name of one of the private hospitals I work at but there is people from all backgrounds celebrity or not, rich or poor they need and receive the same level of support from staff. I would offer the same compassion to SD, you or and other person suffering with this awful illness.

The doctor is from the club and yes they are flying out to protect their investment the same as when my GP visited me when I was at my worst at home or when the doctors at the hospitals are on call 24 hours a day.