£5million a year. So thats 5000000 x 2 Can you do the maths? Ps its 10million, I couldnt risk you making a fool out of yourself anymore. Kids read this site and them knowing stupidity the likes of which only you are capable of is a dangerous thing. Also **** for brains, £70million debt repayments. Show me how you get to this figure because the United reports show a very different figure. I suspect you think the debts about £1billion like the usual clueless dipshits aswell. Wouldnt surprise me. Oh and another thing, Liverpool, thats the team in red not blue, the one that begins with a 'L' not an 'E'. Have you got that? Its pretty simple, not simple like you but simple enough. Next time you move the mouse over towards the 'post quick reply' button, stop! Chuck your computer or laptop out of the window and charge at the wall. It will make more sense than any ****ing nonsense you post.
Have you read the annual reports yet? Do you need help with them? The only reason you're still crapping on is because you know you made a tit of yourself! Nani signed in 2004. Genius!
Signings since 2004: 31 August 2004 Wayne Rooney Everton £27m 1 July 2005 GK Edwin van der Sar Fulham Undisclosed 8 July 2005 MF Park Ji-Sung PSV Eindhoven £4m 19 September 2005 Ben Foster Stoke City 5 January 2006 DF Nemanja Vidić Spartak Moscow 10 January 2006 DF Patrice Evra AS Monaco July 2006 MF Michael Carrick Tottenham Hotspur £13m 1 July 2007 MF Owen Hargreaves Bayern Munich Undisclosed[22] 2 July 2007 MF Anderson Porto £30m (combined)[23] 2 July 2007 MF Nani Sporting 2 July 2007 GK Tomasz Kuszczak West Bromwich Albion £2.125 million[24] January 2008 FW Manucho Petro Atlético Undisclosed[25] 30 January 2008 MF Rodrigo Possebon Internacional Undisclosed[26] 13 June 2008 FW Davide Petrucci Roma £200k[27] 1 July 2008 DF Fábio Fluminense Undisclosed[88] 1 July 2008 DF Rafael Fluminense Undisclosed[89] 1 September 2008 FW Dimitar Berbatov Tottenham Hotspur £30.75m[90] 2 January 2009 MF Zoran Tošić Partizan Undisclosed[91] 8 January 2009 DF Ritchie De Laet Stoke City Undisclosed[92 30 June 2009 MF Antonio Valencia Wigan Athletic Undisclosed[71] 3 July 2009 FW Michael Owen Unattached Free[72] 8 July 2009 FW Gabriel Obertan Bordeaux Undisclosed[73] July 2009 FW Mame Biram Diouf Molde Undisclosed[74 1 July 2010 DF Marnick Vermijl Standard Liège Undisclosed[35] 1 July 2010 DF Chris Smalling Fulham Undisclosed[36] 1 July 2010 FW Javier Hernández Guadalajara Undisclosed[37] 16 August 2010 FW Bébé Vitória de Guimarães Undisclosed[3 8] 1 January 2011 GK Anders Lindegaard Aalesund Undisclosed 2011 De Gea Ashley Young Phil Jones Feel free to add the transfer fees and any player/s I may have missed from this list
I owe you an answer re the Tevez loan. His owner received a fee of c.5million. His salary would have been c.100k a week. He won 2 PL titles and a European Cup before he chased City's coin. I don't think overall it was a bad deal for United. It wasn't a great deal for West Ham but they've just got a 35million striker for three Mars bars and a signed picture of Fat Sam so things really do even themselves out.
Now then little girl, 1) it is past your bedtime and 2) if you are going to stay up late on a school night I want proof of it being £5 million a year as you claim! Come on UIR I'm waiting! I want to see the proof! Where's the proof?
No one would deny that we've signed players. We've also sold some, like Ronaldo for 80million. We've also won the odd trophy which has boosted earnings and paid for transfers. The thing you seem to be struggling with is the reason for the debt at United. I appreciate your understanding of the situation is based on what you've read in Liverpool fanzines (they're the team in red from Merseyside). What's become clear is you're too simple to grasp that United was a profitable entity before the Glazers saddled debt on the club to buy it. You've been presented with annual reports that confirm this but, again, you're clearly too simple to digest the contents. In conclusion, if your bitterness at Liverpool's 20+ years of failure in the league (just a reminder, they are the red team from Merseyside) is somehow softened by convincing yourself that Owen Hargreaves signed for United in 2004 and the club blew the family silver to bring in Tevez for 32million, also in 2004, then more power to you. Any other Liverpool fans on here agree with this guy's recollection of United's 2004 transfer dealings?! Come on guys, he's the gospel of truth!
Granted the signings thing was a mismatch (typing whilst at work - You should google that NOF, it's what people do to earna living. Try it sometime!) But calling people names in a childlike manner only serves to reiterate the claim I have made about you (And UIR so you're in a select committee here) are exactly that, childlike. I am not denying the fact that United had 'Some' money prior to the Glazers but let's not kid our selves here because your statement would indicate they boughth you to take that money. This is clealry not the case as they have taken money from the club after they bought it - They also took a nice sum whilst borrowing to buy the club so all in all, you guys have been royally shafted. I now remember why my Mum told me not to mock the inflicted - I feel sorry for you guys because not only have you got owners who ****ing hate you, but they get paid by you mugs in the process. Now, don't you have a placard to make up and a yellow and green scarf to don for some protest against your lovely owners?
I also take note that no one has bothered to add the figures as queried...Any reason why this is? Probably because it would blow the theory out of the water of you spending £30 million a year - We all no you have spent well over this in past years. Hence the reason why the coffers are bare now, and even though the petty cash is low, your manager still manages to spend millions on a player with no resale value! Wasn't taht one of the reasons he didn't sign Tevez on a permanent! Maybe we should start calling him 'Quick fix Fergie!'
Quick fix Fergie. 2 decades of success. Quick fix. Genius. Again! I agree that the Glazers have shafted United. I think I've made that quite clear throughout this thread! What I find ironic is how the Liverpool fans (fans of a Merseyside team wearing red) gloated with their USA chants before heralding Laurel and Hardy as the saviours of Liverpool and then flopping it out for Lenny Henry. Your American owners have served you well. Relegation zone. Impressive.
The point has always been that PRE-GLAZERS United could sustain the transfers and still turn a profit. Read the annual reports and you will see that. You obviously don't want that to be true hence not reviewing the accounts you requested to see. Since the Glazers took over all the club can do is try and reduce debt each season which it manages to do very, very slowly. Winning a number of titles and a European Cup during the Glazer's tenure has been nothing short of a miracle and that's largely been down to Quick Fix Fergie establishing a side built around Ronaldo and another one built around Shrek.
Thanks buddy for providing the proof that Uniteds interest repayments are £70 million a year. Secondly Tevez was signed on a 2 year loan deal for £10 million from MSI. Liverpool paid MSI £2 million for an 2 year loan deal for Javier Mascherano. The only difference was Liverpool activated the permanent signing 6 months early and paid MSI an extra £15 million as previously negotiated. As for ''Quick fix Fergie'', well the proof of that is his signing of RVP. He knows he's too old to build a team, so he spent £24 milliion on a player that will be washed up by the time he retires in 18 months.
NOB, Sorry NOF having read the somewhat outdated annual report you were so kind to provide us with, all it tells us is that pre tax profit for 2001 was at £21.8million. I'd like to see this years and compare them (I'm having trouble sleeping and that **** should send me right off!) Also interested to read that the Sponsorship and royalties only accounted for 17% and teh 10% share hold of BSKYB - Go on then, pull me up on something I've just wrote. After all, it's the only thing you can do when the facts are correct! At this rate, you may want to start supporting the real Manchester team - Manchester City!
You've spouted so much **** that you've forgotten what you were arguing for and against. You said years of United overspending was the cause of their current debt. I pointed out that the debt was purely down to the Glazers mortgaging the club to buy it but that prior to them taking ownership United did not spend beyond their means. You asked for proof so I gave you the link to the 2001 annual report which you've just confirmed shows a pre tax profit of in excess of 20million. At no point have I suggested that United's finances under the Glazers have been acceptable. I think this is all too much for you to comprehend and you should just focus on the difference between red and blue!
And there we go, facts ignore in favour of a good old rant and forget policy! You ****in idiot, do you know what you are doing? You my friend are living proof that if you leave a monkey on front of a keyboard for longh he'll learn to use it - What that monkey types may make no sense at all, but he will type with it! I havelaid before you facts from the link you provided and you decide to have a go about other 'less important' issues Sit in the corner with UIR and the nurse will come and etch you shortly!
Lets look at the facts. 1 Manchester United are in debt to the tune of £435 million. 2. Their owners owe the Qatari royal family £200 million. 3. They have £70 million a year to pay in interest. 4. Their manager is 71 this year and they have not groomed a succesor, unless you include Mike ''I like to wag my head'' Phelan. 5. Their youth system is made up of £22.5 million Phil Jones and £10 million Chris Smalling.
And yet you backed a manager who spent 35million on a striker who only West Ham were prepared to take on a loan deal. Go figure!
You're getting angry because you've been made to look like a tit, largely your own doing. Well done son.
It's not pretty. It could be worse though, as you well know. Lenny Henry bought Liverpool on the cheap, had one throw of the dice with Dalglish who blew the lot and now won't even pay 6million for Clint Dempsey. That's not good, is it?
