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FFP for the Premier League?

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Gerrinho, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. McFuckFace

    McFuckFace New Member

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    Well thats just is, if its a 'business' how can they bring in laws that would not stand up in court in the business world?
     
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  2. McFuckFace

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    They wont ban any big club from europe, it would destroy the TV deals that UEFA rely on.
     
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  3. Gerrinho

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    Could it be the bit in the report that goes along the lines of "“This proposal has come from United – I think City have shaken them up a little bit – but there should be some controls on spending,” said Whelan."
     
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  4. Gerrinho

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    Also, no they can't invest all they like. The rules stipulate a club can only invest cash it has remaining once its book have balanced. Jeez Swarbs you are getting like UIR take a break from the norm and lay down in a darkened room!
     
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  5. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    **** me Slevin.

    Just to piss you of, our revenue in 2015 will be close to £500million. The deals are already signed bar the nike deal which is set for renewal and is expected to be a world record kit manufacture deal.

    Thats based on us making the top 4, not winning anything, with success it will be even higher.

    Our wage bill is 46% of revenue currently.

    Our interest payments which have recently reduced will reduce even further by 2015, to the point they will be almost gone.

    So? What exactly are you talking about?
     
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  6. McFuckFace

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    TV companies and sponsors control our game, they would never allow Madrid or Man UTD to be excluded from Europe. Why do you think taking your shirt off after scoring is a yellow card?? Its because the sponsors want a shot of X striker streaking down the pitch on TV with there logo on his chest.

    UEFA and FIFA bend over and take it from the money men.
     
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  7. KingEric07.

    KingEric07. cape wearing twat

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    That doesn't include infrasture and youth development though as far as I'm aware.

    UEFA decided to exclude these from the calculations so clubs can continue to grow these areas.
     
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  8. Swarbs

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    So what you're saying is that you care more about what happens to Utd than to your own club? So in effect you would happily support Anyone But United? <ok>

    There's nothing to stop them. I'd have no problem with them doing this - it would boost the economy and the local area, and leave a sustainable legacy (provided they could fill the stadium without throwing all the oil money at players, they struggle to fill a 47,000 seater stadium as it is). It is infinitely preferable to them just throwing money at overpaid footballers with next to nothing going to the local community.
     
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  9. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I see why you quoted that.

    I am not even trying today and I have put these ****wits right many times already.
     
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  10. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool are years behind?
    I don't think so. Warrior Sports paid £25 million a year for 50% of Liverpools clothing line, which is £5 million less than Manchester Uniteds entire line. Therefore Liverpool can make £40-£50 million a year on their entire line compared to Uniteds £30 million, In other areas Liverpool are making massive strides, their commercial port-folio has increased by 300%. Liverpool have announced their 20th sponsor in Garuda Airlines recently.

    Yeah Liverpool are miles behind commercially.
     
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  11. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Back on the subject of Uefa not excluding big clubs.....

    TV companies have continued to pay ever increasing amounts to show CL football, this has happened despite clubs with some of the largest fanbases in the world not being involved due to failing to qualify.

    The money still comes in but some big clubs dont make the cut.

    It would be no different under FFP.

    One big clubs gets banned and the effect of TV ratings would be tiny if they even existed
     
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  12. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Man Uniteds revenue is going to be £500 million, yeah right and Ryan Giggs is going to be named husband of the year, and Bobby Charlton is going to celebrate mothers day. Wake up and smell the daisys, Manchester United are no longer able to compete and that is why they want the FFP fast-tracked. Other clubs are preparing for it. United have set up a whinge campaign.
     
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  13. Gerrinho

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    But the funding for this must come from revenue generated through club activity. It's a lot like community radio which I'm in the process of setting up a station of. A station can only generate 50% of its revenue from one source and cannot distribute any of the profits to its shareholders, it must go back into the station or for 'other community causes'
     
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  14. RED-DEV

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    That's just rubbish. A business is a business for a purpose. To make money. Man City & Chelsea are not businesses - they are toys. They do not make money they lose money, and lots of it.
    The rule is being implemented to protect clubs from over spending and going beyond their means, can you imagine what would happen to City if the sheikh sold YOU the club for £1? or Chelsea for £1?

    They would be either:

    Bankrupt and in severe debt within 12 months or
    A shop window for 12 months then more than likely a championship side within 2 years.
     
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  15. McFuckFace

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    Its quite possible Madrid, Barcelona, PSG, Man City and Chelsea wont make the cut... suddenly some of the biggest clubs in world football cant enter the best trophy which devalues the cup and loses UEFA money.... Do the math dick head.
     
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  16. Gerrinho

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    Nice avoidance on the points I cleared up for you Swarbs!
     
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  17. David Schofield

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    There will be no FFP. Its all just posturing.

    The day Football authorities move to prevent fresh cash coming into the game from ambitious Owners will have signal the end of their involvement in the sport.

    Instead of telling people what they can do with their own money, they would be better putting energy into preventing parasites loading Clubs with debt to fund vanity projects, and worse still; Leveraged Buyouts.

    The fact that United are leading this drive is laughable
     
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  18. McFuckFace

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    But city spend there own money, its not borrowed.
     
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  19. Foredeckdave

    Foredeckdave Music Thread Manager

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    Plattini is himself wrong when he was talking about the size of sponsorship deals.

    City could well negotiate a deal worth triple what United are paid and double whatever is the highest award and KEEP THE LOT - provided that they could show that their plans for commercial growth were such that they warranted it. So they could point to their on-field success last season, research that suggested an increase in global awareness of their brand, their own plans to increase their exposure, etc. etc. Provided that the sum total of that 'evidence' made a reasonable case for the size of the sponsorship deal then UEFA could not penalise them. The interesting point will be the value that is attached to plans rather than performance.
     
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  20. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Well theres the 70% increase in TV money coming, the 100%+ increase in shirt sponsorship money coming and the 100% expected increase from nike.

    Then theres the overseas TV money which is expected to be even bigger than the £3billion domestic deal signed a while back so there will be a massive increase in that.

    Our revenue this year is expected to be £315million, down slightly on last year but we are working on sponsorship deals that in some cases were signed a decade ago.

    We are not the only club to benefit from the TV increases but our $600million 7 year sponsorship deal is ****ing massive <ok>
     
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