Quote from AVB on BBC. Er? Um. I just... I'm confused. Either he's telling the truth and we've just paid 10m for the France keeper to cover a keeper who never gets injured or makes horrendous mistakes. Or he's not telling the truth. In which case - why? What a weird thing to say.
Not at all. As I said on a earlier thread, Lloris has signed for 4 years not 4 weeks. Friedel is in position at the moment and it's up to Lloris to work hard to take the jersey off him.
Yeah but how can he dislodge Brad when Brad's so consistent and never gets injured? It's not like you don't know what you're gonna get with Brad Friedel. And surely someone (whoever forms transfer policy and identifies targets at the club) has clearly decided that Lloris will be an improvement. Not just if he maybe looks better in training, surely?
Well Friedel's in the last year of his contract, for a start, but Lloris should get brought into the side gradually, to give him an opportunity to adjust to the game over here. I'd be happy to see him start in the cups at first, to give him time to find his feet. We've got League Cup and Europa League games coming up, so they should be excellent opportunities for him to push for a starting place.
Friedel has started the season in excellent form and it would be silly to drop him IMO, been faultless for all 4 goals
Not sure about, that he has stuck to his line on a number of occasions when coming for the ball may have been better.
Brad has been our best player so far - that should never be the case for Spurs, or with any club for the matter. Yet you have to be realistic and understand he won't be around for too much longer (I think ), for the money we were able to get Lloris for, we'd have been stupid not to have signed him. I do think within a couple of weeks he'll be number 1, it's a shame as Brad's been fantastic but I very much doubt we'd have signed the French captain, key player of Lyon and considered to be one of the best in the game at the moment to sit on the bench. I'd like to think that Brad knew before coming here he was eventually going to be replaced as number 1, he's a fantastic professional and a great guy who's had an amazing career to date and still not managed to actually let Spurs down but there comes a time for all players when someone comes along who's of a similar calibre to you, yet many years younger, it needs to be appreciated that it's now their time to take the limelight so to speak. For the record though, Brad has been the best keeper I've seen at Tottenham since I can remember and I certainly won't be disappointed if he continues to keep the starting position, I just don't think it'll be the case.
I think Brad has been far from faultless for all four goals, his inability to come off the line means he was partly at fault for the last two, while at Toon, I reckon a Gomes or Lloris might well have saved Ba's one, and apparently Brad has let in 18 out of 18 penalises in his current run, that's terrible, and is the worst in the Prem apparently. I do take the point though there might be no need to rush Lloris in. Maybe a home game rather than Reading away, TBH I don't know who plays up front for Reading these days. I commend the service Brad has given us, and think he's an absolute credit to his country and his profession. He makes great saves still, but just look at how he was floundering for Martin's header against the bar, and a little later actually came for a cross and made a complete hash of it. Incidentally, while Brad's in goal AVB's refusal to play Dawson who can head the ball is absolutely infuriating me.
Firstly, I am not at all sure how Friedel can be faulted for the goals conceded this season, but I have no doubt someone will tell me. Secondly, if you think Lloris is going to be better at coming for crosses, then don't raise your hopes too much as you might be disappointed. This problem will always exist whilst we continue with this ludicrous tactic of bringing 9 outfield (and frequently all10) players back at set-pieces. This not only invites the opposition to push up 1 or 2 more players at least, than they might otherwise have done, but also puts "traffic" blocking any clear run a keeper needs to come and get the ball. Furthermore, shold he be able to come and colect the ball, our tactic prevents him having a free outlet to quickly release the ball and start a quick counter attack. Getting back to yesterday, Friedel was entitrely correct to stay on the line for that one which hit the bar. Any criticism should be directed at the CD's for not attacking the bal, but of course Vetonghen is the new "Blue eyed boy", so he can't be questioned. On the penalties thing, one of our most popular keepers in recent seasons, Paul Robinson, has a shocking record when it comes to saving penalties, and although I don't know the stats, I bet a number of decent keepers curently playing also have unimpressive penalty stats.
I'm not going to argue with you Spurcat on goalkeeping I am quite sure you know more about it than I do but it did strike me that Brad was fixed to his line a lot yesterday. I know and understand you attitude to too many players in the box on corners but in open play are you happy with Brads decision making on when to come out and when to stay?
I am not disputing he is too much of a 'line keeper' Spurf, and as a fully paid up member of the goalkeepers union, I can clearly see his decision making on this part of his game is lacking. I am really defending the player on the goals we have so far conceded and his display yesterday. There have been many 'we need a new keeper' comments on many articles on here, which is fine, but I was rather hoping the guy could have been givensome credit for what I thought was an excellent display from him yesterday. The other thing to consider, is that if you watch Snodgrass yesterday, he was clearly a left footed player sending in crosses from the right. These are always harder for a keeper to come for because he has to be cautious of not leaving his back post uncovered against the higher flighted delivery, and he has more ground to make up for the cross if it is enticing him too far beyond his near post as was the case yesterday. Friedel was quite entitled to demand that BAE was more savvy than to think he was facing a right winger, so was naively inviting him to play the ball with his left foot.
Interesting point on Snodgrass Spurcat I hadn't noticed that. Are you pleased with the signing of Lloris?
I am pleased Spurf. I am pleased because he is undoubtedly a very good goalkeeper, although I think he will take time to settle as most keepers coming from abroad seem to need the time to adjust. Although we were monitoring the situation with a few keepers, he was always AVB's preferred choice. AVB wants all his keepers to have good distribution skills, which brings us back to Friedel because he is definitely weak in that department. Incidentally, Harry was also looking at bringing a new keeper in for this season and his preferred choice was Robert Green !!! So another reason to be pleased with Lloris's signing.
Thanks Spurcat, glad you post on here as I am sure most posters will agree. It's good to get some realism to balance our speculations and observations.
I've noticed JV has been aerially poor on a few too many occasions, which isn't the biggest confidence boost for any keeper. Last thing a new keeper needs thats for sure.
Well if BAE continues to be away with the fairies like he was at times yesterday, then I can see Vertonghen taking his place at LB before too long.
You can't complain about JV aerially yesterday notso. The stats show that he won 11/12 ariel battles and 100% of tackles attempted. In addition 95% passing acuracy and completed 19 clearances, more than any other player.
Phew, I think that I said in another post that if Arry had stayed we would have ended up with Robert Green, Andy Carroll and Joe Cole, I wasn't that far wide of the mark then.
Did he really ?? I wouldn't dispute the tackles, but I certainly would the aerial battles. Assuming they're based on 1-on-1 challenges, then I would still query them. Mind you, a few of his aerial challenges were against Grant Holt who most of the time was making no attempt to jump, but was ducking as if pushed to try and gain the free kick. I remain with notso on this one, I am yet to be convinced about the player's ability to win and clear the ball in the air.
No, you weren't, even more so because last summer Harry was very keen on getting Joe Cole. At the time it did get mentioned in the press and most dismissed it as claptrap, but at one stage talks were at an advanced stage.
