James TRAYNOR has just admitted on Sportsound that the club was liquidated. At last he is listening to Stuart Cosgrove who has made it clear that the club IS the company. Maybe the rest of the media will follow and bring reality home to SEVCO fans that they are a New club and that rangers football club plc is about to be liquidated. Well done Cosgrove and belatedly TRAYNOR for recognising that the club is liquidated.......dead.....gone forever.
Yeah heard that . Gave him a real roasting as has Cosgrove. Now they should have a word with Keevins etc.
I genuinely don't know why they think it is so bad for their own hides just to go with the truth. It is a much better story that a new club rises from the ashes of a once mighty club. They tried to keep with the same traditions as the old club before it was corrupted by a guy with no legs and now they are going to try and emulate what made that club great...... Some guys with a dream or whatever the **** it is. The supporters bought into that vision and the new club goes on a journey blah blah blah. Right now the smarter ones are waiting for the shoe to drop. I know you think it will be BDO that forces them to concede this is a new club. Maybe even stop using the name/insignia and all that ****. I am not so sure. I think it will come from the FTT....if it comes at all. Anyway, the lie that it is the same club that just got put down a couple of divisions and bumped every man, woman and child in the UK and just carried on regardless is hardly endearing.....but nobody likes them and they don't care.
Like I've said before, if we're a new club then **** off and leave us alone. Why the obsession with a brand new club? Celtic fans want to have it both ways though, call us a new club but still want to carry on the unhealthy obsession they had with the 'old rangers'. Then the same fans will go on about titles being stripped, but I thought we were a new club? We don't have any titles according to you. It's ****ed up man.
Yes, I know it is boring to some but I find the human condition very interesting. It doesn't irritate me that Rangers supporters want to pretend that Sevco is the same thing. It was obvious that was going to happen. It slightly irritates me that commentators who should know better propagate this myth.
To be honest I don't know why it is so important to some people that we be labelled as either a new club or the old club. we all know who the club is, whether we're a new club or not, every single person knows it's Rangers, old or new, it makes no difference. The who argument is just a petty point scoring thing that we've come to get used to in Glasgow.
It might be petty to rub it in. I have probably said as much but after being cheated for 25 years I feel a couple of months of ribbing is the very least you can expect. What is maybe less petty is watching Sevco trying to gain capital off the defunct clubs name. That club cheated. That club was wiped off the map as a result of their own doing. As I said, Albatross thinks it will be BDO that will put a stop to that. I believe it will come from the fallout from theFTT or not at all. The real story is more appealing to me at least. EDIT: I do understand that the lie is the only way to get people onside right now.
welcome to the old/new firm. Your right nobody cared when it was airdrie gretna etc but what else do you expect in the fiercest rivalry in the world.
Ah, but it does, as the football club you previously supported is no more, or exists in name only as it is soon to be legally liquidized. The new club, despite your understandable blind spot in claiming that it makes no difference, is exactly that - a new club with no history or claim to anything connected with the club you previously supported, other than its location, some hangers on, including the old club's manager and fans who have apparently seamlessly, but in reality, not without difficulty, transferred their support. I empathize with decent supporters who must be traumatized by the events that have happened but the old club itself has betrayed it's fans and unfortunately for those fans, has now deservedly paid the price for cheating in every sense of the word.
You should watch your language when you post on the elite SPL forum. Keep your f's for the lowest tier. We know you don't have any trophies and will never have any of the trophies given to the best in the land. However somewhere in the tombs of Ipox there is a record of the trophies got by Rangers when they were alive and cheating. It is those records that we want amended to demonstrate that integrity and fair play does exist in Scottish Football. As a decent man, sometimes, you cannot argue against the over riding principle of fair play.
To a certain extent I see your point and as time passes it may well become less relevant, but the issue is that had the truth been told from the beginning SEVCO Fans would not believe that they are being relegated and punished. They would realise that Rangers Football Club plc (to be liquidadted) is the club itself and not some nebulous creation of the media as a company which ran the club. There is now too much evidence out there to refute that argument any longer. It is because a paranoid victIm culture has grown up among certain factions of the new clubs support that is is so important that the media NOW make it clear, as the likes of Richard Gough and Walter Smith have done that this is a NEW CLUB. To me, I accept that as time passes fans of all clubs will accept that in the minds of fans This is ranges, a continuation of the old club or a rebirth with its traditions and, due to the membership transfer, it's history in tact. I haven't an argument with that, but I do refute any argument that rangers were relegated or banned from Europe. The media should now makes it clear that The Rangers is a new club and as such they cannot qualify for European football for 3 years.
RB I am not sure how the FTT have th power or any mechanism by which they can recover assets. My understanding is that only BDO, as the liquidators could do this if they chose to. I cannot think of any reason why liquidators would avoid doing this if the believe it is to the advantage of the creditors. The outcome of the FTT if it not in rfc plc favour could create a mood whereby this becomes more acceptable to the public at broad, especially those outwith Scotland, who are fed up with football clubs evading tax and debts.
don't really see how there can be any doubt. If it was the old club then it would need to pay the old clubs debts. They don't so its a new club. Fraser wishart admitted it on SSB that it is a new club
