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The 2012 US Presidential Election

Discussion in 'F1 Off Topic' started by genjigonzales, Aug 29, 2012.

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Who's you vast wealth on?

Poll closed Nov 5, 2012.
  1. Mick O'Bama

    8 vote(s)
    61.5%
  2. Walter Mitty

    2 vote(s)
    15.4%
  3. I.D.G.A.F.

    3 vote(s)
    23.1%
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  1. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Given Sky News's propensity for retracting their reporters' articles when their proprietor complains, I thought it might be worthwhile posting a Fox News report of Ryan's speech last night:

    Fair play to Sally Kohn and Fox for pointing out these discrepancies in a timely manner (regardless of what Fox decides to do with the story under pressure from its owner) but it is only an early first step and I can't help thinking that it's entirely down to the media's indolent disinterest in providing factual information in favour of sensationalist drama that led Romney and Ryan to believe they could get away with stating such calumny. If the media continue to focus on the lyin' dog in the days and weeks to come then I'll be more inclined to think that they're doing their actual job.
     
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  2. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Does it really matter who wins? they're all owned by the same people. Although Romney scares me a little, these religious types remind me of Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone, "the missiles are flying, Hallelujah, hallelujah"

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  3. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    Fox News pointing out the flaws in a conservative candidate? Whatever next!
     
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  4. happyal

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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Is he gonna end the wars, close Guantanamo and give poor people free health like he did in his first term?
     
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  6. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    I think it's gonna be tough for him to live up to exacting standards he set in his first term (I'm not even sure what comes after delivering world peace, curing cancer and abolishing poverty) but a film by someone the conservative press accused of "... the most ridiculous piece of Obama analysis yet written... all in all, D’Souza’s article reads like a bad conspiracy theory" isn't going to be balanced or realistic. It'll just be along the lines of the ridiculous Citizens United pseudo-documentaries: far-right propagandist drivel.
     
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  7. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Slightly worrying:

    [video=youtube;qiHNVYRTKP8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiHNVYRTKP8[/video]​
     
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  8. happyal

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    So he's about as balanced as Michael Moore? He's just a right wing version.
     
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  9. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Possibly. I'm not aware of any liberal publications that have criticised Moore for being a looney, but it might have happened.
     
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  10. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    More from Fox News, this time attacking the GOP for voter suppression:

    I wonder if they're waking up to the fact that their Republican party has been hijacked by the American Taliban? To flip sides for a moment...

    [video=youtube;yGAvwSp86hY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAvwSp86hY[/video]​

    Whatever the reason, the results speak for themselves:

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  11. Kyle?

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    The anti Romney bias from the BBC is sickening. If Obama was white he'd be called a moron, the mere fact he's black somehow makes him special, as if he's a second coming? Under his watch, US debt has tripled, the economy has died, and more people have been thrust into poverty. He's somehow done worse than Bush, just he hasn't started any wars.
     
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  12. TomTom94

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    Reading the article about discouraging Latino and African-American votes sends chills down my spine. Having to learn about the methods previously used by Southern American states to deny African-American votes will do that.
     
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  13. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Washington Post

    If there is an anti-Romney bias in BBC reports it's likely because of the massive ****storm of lies that the Romney camp is peddling as truth that all but a tiny pocket of the American media are failing to take them to task over and that has Joe Public sat there going, "yeah, you know what? It is Obama's fault that the economy's in the toilet and we have such massive national debts, isn't it?" <doh>

    Lehman Brothers failed in September 2008, two months before Obama was even elected. Most of the increase in US debt since he was sworn in in January 2009 is due to Bush's policies.

    Obama has failed to achieve many of his objectives and I believe this accounts for a sizeable chunk of the drop in registered Democrats (a drop that will leave him trailing far behind Romney in the vote) but the bullshit Romney and Ryan spout about his spending and the deficit is staggering.


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    Forbes.com

    Just to illustrate the degree of their lying (and for a bit of fun), here's the finishing table for the marathon race Paul Ryan claimed to have completed in "under three, high twos. I had a two hour and fifty-something."

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    An utterly pointless lie that achieved nothing except show how ingrained in his nature it is.
     
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  14. Paco Montoya

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    How ridiculous is that lie? No-one cares if you can run a marathon fast unless you are an athlete. Christ.
     
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  15. TomTom94

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    In many ways it's the perfect lie because if Obama points it out Ryan and Romney (which sounds like a 70s sitcom, incidentally) can turn around and accuse Obama of being pedantic, whereas if they don't point it out Ryan looks like the everyman American hero.
     
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  16. genjigonzales

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    True - I hadn't considered that. It backfired though because I don't think the Obama camp called them out on it - it was that terrible liberal publication Runners World, which noticed he didn't have the frame of a fast marathon runner. W. ran a marathon in 3:44, apparently, and Palin ran one in 3:59. Ryan does put Al Gore to shame, though, who managed only 4:58, but that's Democrats for you.

    It's possible that 4:01 comes out as "two hour and fifty-something" once you apply all the deductions and facts breaks he was entitled to.
     
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  17. genjigonzales

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    Unlike the darkness, simmering resent and froth of lies that emanated from Tampa last week, this week's Democratic convention appears to have made an effort to discuss policies, ambitions, point out achievements and offer a degree of explanation and responsibility for what hasn't been achieved. It was equally full of "greatest nation on earth" rhetoric and it did buckle under Christian wrath and it didn't mention Guantanemo Bay but it did seem serious, determined and vaguely positive - as positive as it could be in world that's been seriously ****ed by those who run it. What it lacked in dialogue with an empty chair it more than made up for in "once you vote black you'll never go back" badges.

    It was quite sad, then, that a 16-year old girl from Clarskville, OH felt the need to tweet:

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    or that over 300 other people identified with her opinion and retweeted it.
     
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  18. happyal

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    Only in America :) I hope.....
     
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    Hmmm <whistle>

    [video=youtube;GRN9Y5Nvdqk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRN9Y5Nvdqk[/video]

    This vid has been doing the rounds lately.
     
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  20. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Is that his Chris Grayling moment? "I'm not homophobic myself, but..."

    Romney's gaffe's are great. My favourite is "I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that's the America millions of Americans believe in. That's the America I love."

    Also, he can stick his Winter Olympics up his arse. British Olympic organisers and volunteers (and even Cameron) crushed his petty ****wittery.

    Also the DNC tied Here Comes Honey Boo Boo for audience share. The reality TV show wiped its arse with the RNC last week.
     
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