I'm not messing, Ferguson and Mancini over the RVP thing were competing on who has the biggest man-hood. Its an ego trip.
Well said. Sustainability is the key word there, BR and the board are building for the future, they have said and emphasised that this will take time, but once it all comes together, new signings combined with young players badly in need of first team experience, I think we can expect many years of slick, attacking, winning football at Anfield, we just have to be patient as they try and put this in place. So many other clubs are using completely unsustainable business models, City and United immediately come to mind, leaving themselves in a very precarious situation. Also Dempsey isn't all that, for one he's getting on in the years and yes he had a good last season with Fulham but who can say he would've replicated it with us this season under a different set of circumstances, lord knows big Andy is a pretty recent example of that happening. We seem to have built the overall squad strength this window and now have a squad who can play the style of football Rodgers wants, OK we need another front man but we must believe that the coaching staff are seeing that man in one of the young kids on the training pitch. Perhaps this situation will also make Suarez step up and be more clinical, Borini we've hardly seen anything from, but he needs to start scoring now, hopefully this will inspire him.
Rodgers needs to learn to think before speaking. 'Nutcase' "We have got a very small squad as it is. We have lost a lot of players this summer and I have not replaced them, as of yet. That is the reality of where we are. "I need a minimum of three strikers. Once the window shuts, that is it until January. I have got (Luis) Suarez, Fabio Borini, and Andy Carroll. "I would need to be a nutcase even to consider at this moment to let Carroll go out, unless there are other solutions for that."
please log in to view this image Carroll did not cost us £35m. The fee was directly linked to the Torres fee. £50m - £35m = £15m. He's being sly talking in terms of £35m on the bench. What he had on the bench was the most promising young striker in the league who's challenging Rooney for his England place. Carroll is more than a Plan B but Rodgers' doesn't do Plan Bs anyway, apparently, so that's £15m he just didn't know how to use. Excuse me? A PL manager who can't use Andy Carroll? That's like a plumber saying he doesn't use spanners. BR can't do anything other than his one style, as we clearly saw against West Brom. Fish / water interface failure. Hooray, heads back in the sand. Anybody want to bet the £5m for Dempsey that Carroll scores more than Borini this season?
Already said on the pub thread that Carroll will probably out score all our players. Not combined obviously.
Just because the money to fund Carroll came from the Torres fee does not mean he didn't cost £35million. He did indeed cost £35million and it was money that could have been better spent. We overspent out of panic in an over-inflated January window from a team that didn't really want to sell him. If Newcastle had wanted to sell him at that time he probably would have been more in the £15-£20mill bracket. THAT SAID... I think he could very possibly have a bright future he had begun to do well for us last season. Had a good summer- and didn't look that bad in his brief appearances this season. I wish BR had seen more use in him. I would love to still have Carroll at our disposal... but we don't... so let's give BR his chance and see how he handles things without him. It is very likely Carroll will have a great season... if he does- he is ours again next summer as long as BR wants him then.
Don't know if Carroll will come back, he might do well in Fat Sam's hoof ball team but still might not be what BR wants. As for the whole -£15m of the Torres transfer thing... seems like an excuse to justify the price tag. Utter bollocks if you ask me. When Newcastle received that money they didn't go out and buy players for -£10m of the Carroll money, they reinvested it with some very good players for very decent prices.
Rodgers' #LFC is a long-term vision. This is just the start, a first step. Further investment will come, probably in Jan. I'd like to thin that if we still can't score come January, someone will have to come in no matter what.
Yeah, but MFG you also would not have accepted a team geared style wise to provide Carroll with the goals he'll get at West Ham. Or would you? Sam Allderdyce Football eh? This plan b stuff is nonsense. If you mean breaking down teams that sit and defend in numbers I can't say yet because I have only seen it happen against a hearts team and we scored in both games. He's using his system at LFC now, not Swansea so I'll base my judgement at the end of this season. And even then I'll give him & FSG the chance to rectify any shortfalls with more players now we're down to bare minimum. Then I'll judge him (and them; I'm not happy with them today) on a team that will be largely his own. Exactly the same as what I wanted to do with KD because he had exactly the same problem regarding "plan b's". I didn't get to do that but I'm not going to hold onto bitterness which will taint my objectivity with the new manager. You Can't show intolerance to the new man throwing out the excuse that others did exactly that with KD. That just makes you exactly what you are criticising. Every post I've seen from you recently says you aren't prepared to give BR a chance. Is this correct? And if so; where does that leave you as a supporter, because KD is never coming back under these owners or new ones. So how will supporting LFC ever be a good experience for you again? Genuine question and is in no way trying to suggest you aren't a supporter just how you will get any joy out of the process now.
More likely to take you to a nice restaurant and remember your birthday too. I bet Fergie farts in bed a lot.
. If this true I'll be even more angry. I'd really want my posted questions answered. It seems it's always someone else's fault with the owners. They're running out of people to sack.
Richard Buxton reported it as well as a few journalists on twitter (who are pretty reliable). The name linked as the replacement is Gillon McLachlan who is the Australian Football League Chief Operating Officer.
As MD, Ian Ayre has not done a great job IMO; the handling of player negotiations and Suarez affair were pretty poor. However, from a commercial POV, I believe he played a big part in the new sponsorship deals so he is a good business man. We definitely need someone who is savvy. A David Dein or even David Gill type figure is depserately needed to lead this club and I can't IA doing that ....
It all comes down to the details of the deal; A) Chelsea agree to pay 15mil above what our replacement costs(which is believed to be this) = Carrol then in effect cost us the difference between what a true value of Torres was deemed to be back then 40mil? and the money we got for Carrol 15mil initially plus the 15-17mil that West Ham are alledged to be offering/paying at the end of loan. This means Carrol cost us the difference between 40mil and 30-32mil = 8-10mil B) We got 50mil for Torres and went straight out and bought 35mil Andy Carrol = he cost us 35mil(this seems like the unlikely choice) If we sell Carrol for 15-17mil which is what is supposed to be lined up then one way of looking at the whole deal is that we received 30-32mil for Torres. This is a slight loss on what we would have hoped to get for Torres, I would say a loss of 10mil+. Yet another way of viewing it is that Carrol then cost us 35mil minus 15-17mil = a loss of 18-20mil on him! I think all this is right, to be honest all this maths is screwing with my brain!
