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Cairney injury

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by John. Walkington., Aug 28, 2012.

  1. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    I think the FA can only take retrospective action where none of the match officials saw the incident. As I wasn't at the match I don't know if it was seen but no caution or whether it was not seen at all?
     
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  2. Jaggro

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    I can't remember a time when that's happened - at least not for a foul. Things like racist remarks are obviously likely to be unheard by refs and they always get pulled up but I don't ever remember a 3-match ban being incurred a few days after the match.
     
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  3. andy payton's mullet

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    I think the idea is to use it for off the ball incidents that amount to violent conduct like elbows, punches etc. I don't recall it ever being used to retrospectively punish a foul tackle as the officials have normally seen that
     
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  4. Jaggro

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    I think the rule is (even with punches/elbows) if the referee reports that he saw it, but chose not to punish it, then there's nothing the FA can do.

    Only when the referee says that he didn't see it happen can the FA step in - and in Cairney's case the ref did blow for a foul, he just chose not to even book the ****.
     
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  5. andy payton's mullet

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    I think you're right J-D - it's what I attempted to say but failed to make clear.
     
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  6. rovertiger

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    Thanks for enlightening me fellas :smiley:

    But I personally think any tackle that could be (God forbid) career threatening, should be able to be dealt with no matter what the circumstances. The game can do without those sort of tackles.
     
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  7. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    If the FA dont charge Husband then if i were TC i would take out a private one for assault. Anywhere else and an attack like that would have you up before the beek.
     
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  8. andy payton's mullet

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    I'm not sure if you are being serious or not?

    If you are, I did a thesis on this at uni and it is very difficult to win. Football is a contact sport and by playing you are giving consent to being the subject of physical contact in the game.

    It is different in situations like Big Dunc Ferguson who deliberately headbutted an opponent, as you are not deemed to have consented to an assault.

    That's the short version anyway
     
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    Cairney14 ‏@ThomasCairney
    On my way to sheffield for my scan on my knee... Very nervous! #prayingforgoodnews
     
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  10. Geo's Ice Cream Van

    Geo's Ice Cream Van Well-Known Member

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    Fingers crossed for the kid.
    I had to wait 5 weeks to have a scan, waiting to find out what I'd done.
    Good news for me I just tore the meniscus.
     
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    I am pretty sure on tigers player they said it was a 50 50 challenge. How the hell is that a 50 50 challenge?
     
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  13. RicardoHCAFC

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    50% of Husbands has gone in front of Cairney, and 50% has gone behind him.
     
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  14. robingram02

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    Confirmed on his twitter that it's 3 months.
     
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  15. PLT

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    That's an excellent post. I'd also like to add that being one-footed isn't necessarily a weakness if you can use it properly like Cairney and Dawson do. They get their bodies into positions so that using their left is never a problem. Also Cairney actually isn't as one-footed as Dawson or Alex Bruce, he can sue his right foot for simple passes.

    His shooting is excellent, he doesn't score that many because he never plays. When he does play (pre-season and cups) he scores a hell of a lot for a midfielder and they're usually screamers. He also takes a better set piece than anyone else we've got and it was his free kick hitting the bar that created Simpson's goal the other night.

    100% Agree. I thought it was only me who'd noticed it but Evans is appalling on the ball and all the criticism ainmed at McLean applies to Evans in the exact same way except that as you said Evans doesn't offer than random moments of quality out of the blue like McLean, that's an excellent comparison.

    Burnsy said it was James Husband.

    He's halfway up his leg, it obviously isn't going to take much force to do some damage if you hit someone side on at that height exactly on the knee. How the **** could the ref not see he was that high up? People in the media go on about tackles from behind but that isn't dangerous at all - we should be clamping down on knee-high tackles and also head-on challanges from the front because that's where the injuries happen.

    Looking at that picture 3 months is brilliant news. It looks like it could have been as bad as Stewart's or Hobbs' injuries. I just hope that's right.
     
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  16. mussiesredhat

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    No ACL operation then
     
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  17. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I fully agree with you, that a tackle from behind is less dangerous than from the side or front. With a tackle from behind the tackler and the tackled are both going in the same direction, so there is not so much strain on the leg.
     
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  18. mussiesredhat

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    do we actually know any diagnosis of the injury yet. obviously not ACL if only 3 months
     
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  19. PLT

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    Absolutely, the most dangerous ones seem to be when two players go in fully committed to a loose ball, straight at each other and meet in the middle. You can see before they meet that something nasty is going to happen. The one where Rosenior got sent off and Leicester's Cunningham broke his leg was a typical example of this.
     
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  20. tigercity

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    I wonder if Husband's wife will give him a bollocking?
     
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