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Hatred Breeds Hatred

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by The Raging Oxter, Apr 20, 2011.

  1. EDGE

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    You don't know that, in fact, death threats were sent to Novo and Gascoigne, Beasley's car was blown up a couple of years ago, you sent private detectives to follow refs, you smashed Hugh Dallas' windows, Jorg Albertz's window's.

    Yes, but your fans aren't that stupid.
     
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  2. EDGE

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    What has it got to do with Rangers then?

    What has Rangers done? **** all, and until they catch whoever is responsible, then there is still no proof that it was a Rangers "fan", though I agree that it looks likely, unfortunately.
     
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  3. rogueleader

    rogueleader suave gringo

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    Maybe Juan Ghuy has switched allegiances ?
     
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  4. anportmorbhoy

    anportmorbhoy Well-Known Member

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    Probably rangers fans trying to make Celtic fans look bad??!!! <laugh>

    Serioulsy though - those instances, over a long period of time are dreadful and were quickly rounded upon by the majoirity of Celtic fans.

    The campaign against Lennon has been non stop since he joined as a player and has got worse. He's had the death threats, but this wasnt a a threat. Had he opened the letter he could have been killed
     
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  5. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    We could go back and forth all day with the history of fans altercating with players. Beasley's car was 'not believed to be sectarian' by the way. You have to admit that sending a parcel bomb is an escalation on singing a distasteful song about Novo dying in his sleep.
     
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  6. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    EDGE

    If you look at the headline of this thread you'll see it's called Hatred Breeds Hatred. We've had decades of the "them and us" attitude. Both clubs have cashed on in this.

    The problem is that the trouble seems to be escalating of late. If you look at some of the ****e spouted on FF and even on here by the likes of Girvan you can begin to understand why these things are happening. For ****'s sake, I was on FF one day and there was a thread where Rangers fans were blaming their own bigotry on Catholic/Faith schools., ie. "if there were no kafflic schools there would be divide"

    Now, I'm against faith schools myself but when you have people trying to justify their own bigotry by blaming the other side is it any wonder we've reached a stage where people are sending letters bombs and making threats against people just because they play for or support a particular team?
     
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  7. EDGE

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    Aye, and that's a ****ing disgrace.

    People don't like Lennon, Rangers fans don't, DU fans don't, in fact every/most non-Celtic fans in Scotland doesn't like him, but is that sectarian, or is it because he's a devisive charachter?

    In the persecuted world of Celtic fans, it will be seen as sectarian, in reality, people don't like him because of the way he conducted himself as a player and now as a manager on the touchline.

    But, no footballer/manager should have their life threatened.
     
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  8. EDGE

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    Novo was sent death threats via the post <doh>
     
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...fans-explosives-sent-manager-Neil-Lennon.html

    Granted its the daily mail (i know)

    But shows what the English people are reading about your fans Edge. Most who know **** all about Celtic are rangers will tar you all with the same brush - when most of your support wouldnt post this ****e - i'll bet your first reaction is to laugh. But feed this ****e to uneducated bampots and one day one of them will kill Lennon - for being manager of Celtic and for that reason alone
     
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  10. The Raging Oxter

    The Raging Oxter Well-Known Member

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    I would agree with some of that but when you have people calling him a fenian or taig bastard it's kind of hard to suggest it's not sectarian or bigoted.
     
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  11. EDGE

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    Aye, it's a shambles, a disgrace and makes EVERYONE connected with Scottish football look bad.

    I hope they catch the prick and parade him at Celtic park, where you can stone him to death.
     
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  12. Mick

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    The way he conducted himself as a player? He had one career red card and was consistently at the bottom of the disciplinary league.
     
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    Its your fans (as a whole) continued hatred towards him that lets uneducated bampots think they are being clever by taking it too far Edge.

    Thats why the majority need to get over it.

    You lot hated him the day he first wore a Celtic shirt - plain and simple - for no other reason than he was a northern irish catholic playing for Celtic and one whol loved every second of it.
     
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  14. EDGE

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    I totally agree, if this esculation doesn't stop, and fans who frequent extremist websites stop allowing themselves to be radicalised, then someone will be end up seriously injured or worse.
     
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  15. EDGE

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    Doesn't mean that eff all though.

    Why was Novo hated by all Scottish football fans bar Rangers fans? Because Scotland has a long history of hating Spanish Catholics?

    Why was Barry Ferguson hated too? Because Scotland has a long history of hating Scottish Protestants?

    He is a divisive charachter and still is.
     
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  16. EDGE

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    If it was to do purely with him being an NI RC, then why is McCourt or McGinn never boo'd at Ibrox? I know that they've been targetted by this lunatic prick, but still, they've never been boo'd at Ibrox, so why just Lennon?
     
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  17. The Raging Oxter

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    I think only the people who abuse Lennon could answer this. I've never understod why people take it to the lengths they do.

    The only thing that bothered me about Novo was that he was a lying prick. Other than that I never gave him a second thought. I don't like Lafferty either because, to me, he epitomises everything that's wrong with modern footballers. However, I would never think to shout obscenities at them or scratch their cars or send threats in the post.

    And even if people didn't like Lennon as a player or even as a man it cannot justify or even explain the level of hatred and abuse he gets from footbal fans and Rangers fans in particular.
     
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  18. EDGE

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    True, no one should have to put up with death threats for being a footballer/manager or for who they support.

    Haters are close minded idiots, who are doomed to a life of sadness.
     
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    Be careful people. This thread is the opening salvo in Stereo's cunning plan to organise an inter-OF bumfest.
     
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    <laugh>
     
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