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A new pretender for Leggo's throne

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by DevAdvocate, Jul 29, 2012.

  1. Null

    Null Well-Known Member
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    A sad twisted pish stained bigot... him n Leggo should go n hang out(side Lidl gathering change to buy meths)
     
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  2. DevAdvocate

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    Try reading some of the comments on his alleged blog. <laugh>
     
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    I dont think I could allow myself...
     
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  4. Ciaran

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    It's McMedro <grr>

    You're right though.
     
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    The Phoney War
    Posted in Uncategorized on August 22, 2012 by billmcmurdo
    The Phoney War was a phrase used to describe the absence of any real hostilities in the first six months of World War Two.

    It is also an apt description of the religious dimension of the Rangers-Celtic story in Scotland.

    That there is a religious dimension we are not encouraged to doubt. Accusations of bigotry and religious prejudice abound in the Scottish media and frenzied Scottish politicians ignored the perfectly capable existing laws in our legal system to deal with crimes at and around football matches to railroad through their recent anti-sectarian legislation.

    It&#8217;s proddies in the red, white and blue versus tims in the green and white if you believe the story &#8211; a religious war fought on the football pitch instead of the moors and fields it used to be.

    However, there is a massive problem with this story.

    The story relies on Rangers being a Protestant club and Celtic being a Roman Catholic club.

    Now Celtic do not hide their religious affiliation nor the history of their club as a distinctly Roman Catholic organisation. Of course, not all their fans are of the Roman faith but it is a given that the large majority are.

    So Celtic keep their end of things by being the Catholic side in the conflict.

    But here&#8217;s where it all falls apart.

    Because by no stretch of the imagination could Rangers be called a Protestant team.

    Protestantism is the faith of Martin Luther and John Calvin, of John Knox and the Covenanters. It is the Christian faith. By this I mean it is marked by worship of God and faith in Christ. Protestants are people of prayer and Bible reading.

    Protestantism is not shouting FTP and knowing all the words to The Sash. It is not being in the loyal orders whilst never darkening the door of a church. It is not hating Catholics. Luther, Calvin and Knox were all Catholics before their conversions.

    Yes, there is a tribal or cultural Protestantism which has no basis in any faith path but this is hijacking the word &#8220;Protestant&#8221; to your own ends and besmirching those who are Protestants in reality. This tribal brand of Protestantism is predicated on hatred of Catholics and mindless bigotry &#8211; it is not historical Protestantism.

    I am not saying genuine Protestants don&#8217;t follow Rangers but the vast majority of Rangers fans tend to be the tribal sort. Rangers fans often take great pride in avouching their own secular persuasions and even describing themselves as atheists. Some even wear their hostility to religion as a badge of honour and go to great lengths to say how their support of Rangers is not based on any religious allegiance.

    When I ask them if their abhorrence of bringing religion into the fitba&#8217; incorporates a determination to stop chanting things like F*** The Pope I am met with stony silence.

    It appears that calling yourself an atheist or non-religious is just a convenient way to mask your true religion of Catholic-hater.

    &#8220;Protestant&#8221; has become a bad word in recent times here in Scotland. It connotes bigotry and sectarian to many who hear it. There is a simple reason for this &#8211; its association with and appropriation by those who have no business calling themselves Protestants.

    Tribal Protestantism has become just Protestantism because of this. Just like gay came to mean homosexual, Protestant has come to mean hate-filled bigot to many people.

    So Rangers is a Protestant club in this line of thought.

    Except it&#8217;s not true.

    As I have said before, Rangers stand for and represent Queen and country. But Rangers is not in any way representative of the Protestant Evangelical faith practised by millions since the Reformation.

    That there is a religious war being waged since the Reformation, I have no doubt. That the aspect of Queen and country is involved in it, I equally have no reservations, given that Britain is a Protestant country and the Monarchy is Protestant.

    But it is time to stop letting media people and other social engineers dictate the agenda and create the backdrop in Scottish football.

    Rangers do not take the field of play representing John Knox and the Covenanters. Some might wish that they did.

    But until I hear hymns played over the tannoy at Ibrox and see Rangers players huddled in prayer before the game, I won&#8217;t accept that Rangers is a Protestant club.

    There is a world of difference between being a &#8220;proddie&#8221; and being a Protestant.

    So any religious conflict between Rangers and Celtic is not a Protestant-Catholic one &#8211; it is a proddy versus Catholic encounter.

    And the reason it&#8217;s a phoney war is that there is no proddy faith.

    Why is this important? For the reason that there are many good Rangers men who won&#8217;t take their kids to games because they don&#8217;t want them poisoned by hate &#8211; a hate masquerading as Protestantism but which is just proddy bigotry.

    Proddyism amounts to nothing much more than hating Catholics. This is a poor excuse for a religion and a crap reason to support a football team.

    And in my opinion, it&#8217;s not what The Rangers is all about.
     
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  6. simon_bhoy

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    well this isnt totally unreasonable - i think what the author is missing, however, is a true understanding that celtic is no more a "catholic" club then rangers is a "protestant" one if his rules are to be evenly applied.

    if he was being truly even handed, he would refer to those non practising "proddy" haters as "cafflicks" rather than catholics - the implication does seem to be that true protestants are not capable of hating catholics while true catholics are quite capable of the reverse.

    what he also fails to grasp - rather tragically - is that times change. whether or not rangers are a club whose followers are church going protestants with faith is really neither here nor there - the point is thatperception plays a large part in definition

    he talks of social engineering and yet seems to be trying to socially engineer a revisionist historical perspective

    terms change, times change, tribes change - time he did also
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    All he seems to want to talk about is religion?

    He seldom discusses anything else.
     
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    does anyone actually get paid for doing this pish though?

    perhaps i am a cynical bastard but i'd always be thinking "whats in it for me?"

    you know - like the fat guy that runs the RST ;)
     
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  9. DevAdvocate

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    It's enough for them to know that they have a following, much like the Pied Piper of Hamelin.

    If a Blog becomes popular enough it may draw advertising. The KKK are always looking for ways to get their message out so he could be onto something <ok>
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

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    Two crackers from thsi complete cock of a man.


    No Surrender
    Posted in Uncategorized on August 25, 2012 by billmcmurdo

    I was brought up on the fine old traditions of Rangers Football Club. As a boy I spent many hours reading about the golden days of early Rangers history, reading about Bill Struth, Willie Waddell, Davie Meiklejohn, George Young and the like.
    My favourite was Alan Morton and I was mesmerised by the big painting of him on the marble staircase at Ibrox, where his eyes seemed to follow you all the way up.

    The Rangers character, regardless of which era you are in could be summed up in two words:

    No surrender.

    I was brought up believing and seeing for myself that Rangers never say die, never know they are beaten till the final whistle and resolve to win every game they play in. As Ally McCoist would say in the 21st century, Rangers don&#8217;t do walking away. This never-say-die attitude must come to the fore more than ever in this present time. Enemies of Rangers, who took spiteful pleasure in kicking the club when it was at its lowest for 140 years, are still hovering, seeking to inflict any further damage they can.

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    ccording to one Rangers blog, who claim insider knowledge from a Harper McLeod employee, there is a conspiracy to fine Rangers upward of £10 million as a consequence of the investigation by Harper McLeod into Rangers&#8217; contractual dealings with players during the David Murray regime at Ibrox.

    There is even an insinuation that the people chosen to form the tribunal which will pass down any punishment on Rangers, should they deem Rangers to be in breach of SPL rules, have been handpicked to deliver the crushing financial penalty. This tribunal will consist of Charles Flint QC and Nicholas Stewart QC, chaired by Lord Nimmo Smith.
    Lord Nimmo Smith has &#8220;previous&#8221; in that it was he who chaired the SFA investigation into Rangers that led to a whopping fine and what is effectively an 18 month transfer embargo on the club. Surely the fact that aspersions have been cast on the integrity of the whole process &#8211; Harper McLeod&#8217;s dealings and relationship with Celtic have been well-documented &#8211; and now even fine upstanding men of the legal profession have had their honour and integrity brought into question, &#8211; means that there must be an urgent public inquiry held into the whole Rangers crisis.
    We cannot, of course, expect this of the Mickey Mouse Scottish Government.

    When high-level judges and Queen&#8217;s Counsel can have their probity questioned in such a manner it is not indicative of moral corruption on their part but certainly a sign that there is something deeply rotten in the process. Why would the SPL seek to inflict such a massive punishment on Rangers? For the simple reason that this organisation is itself teetering on the brink of insolvency, as apparently are some of its member clubs. The SPL needs Rangers money &#8211; in one way or another, they intend to get it.

    It reminds you of the Shakespeare play Merchant of Venice, where the moneylender was determined to get his pound of flesh from a defaulting client. The only difference is, last time I looked, it was the SPL that owed Rangers money.

    Nevertheless, it is the Rangers-hating cabal of the SPL, headed up by Lawwell puppet Neil Doncaster, which is vigorously pursuing vengeance on Rangers. That this &#8220;vengeance&#8221; has a ker-ching sound to it will not surprise bluenoses. The SPL need the Rangers pound, one way or another. All of this is why Rangers &#8211; club and fans &#8211; must more than ever imbue the spiritof Rangers then, now and forever and never surrender to those haters and money-grabbers who want to milk the club as much as they can.

    And Rangers must lead the way in delivering Scottish football from the corruption at its heart. <laugh>






    The Two Scottish Footballs
    Posted in Uncategorized on August 26, 2012 by billmcmurdo

    I began this blog with a piece on what I believed would emerge in Scottish football &#8211; that the game would split into effectively two Scottish footballs.

    At the time this was viewed with skepticism by many, both of a Rangers and non-Rangers persuasion.

    Now the concept is gathering legs, both on the Rangers messageboards and, I am told, in the club itself &#8211; though it has to be acknowledged that voices inside Ibrox mooting a more permanent stay within the SFL structure this may be just for PR purposes.

    It was also great to see David Leggat, the &#8220;Daddy&#8221; of all Rangers bloggers still, blogging on this very matter today.

    The idea that the Scottish Football League may replace the crumbling SPL is no longer the stuff of fantasy. People who think the SPL clubs are much bigger should check out the woeful attendances generated by these clubs even with Sellout Saturday and other laughable attempts to get people back to a devalued product. Also, a quick look at the parlous state of the finances of both the SPL and its member clubs provides a sobering reminder of the commercial suicide committed by these clubs in throwing Rangers out of their league.

    The SPL is dead. Watching that death play out slowly and agonisingly will provide much pleasure for fans of Rangers FC. What matters, though, is what replaces it.

    As the SPL withers on the vine, a credible alternative will arise in the form of an SFL revitalised by the economic power of the &#8220;Rangers pound,&#8221; possibly leading to the SFL becoming the organisation that receives the UEFA franchise.

    Now I know people will say that long before this head-to-head encounter takes place between the two bodies of the SPL and the SFL a deal will take place to merge the two. Stewart Regan let the cat out of the bag recently that such a deal is already being discussed. However, it is entirely possible &#8211; and some would say very likely &#8211; that the SFL clubs will kick into touch any proposals for league reconstruction that do not really change things very much while still retaining the hegemony of SPL clubs. And so they should.

    It is also safe to say that Rangers fans as one will vociferously oppose this pauchle, which is a blatant attempt to get the Rangers pound flowing back into the coffers of greedy SPL teams. In short, Scottish football polarising into two rival camps, both with a Glasgow giant in them, is a more likely scenario at this stage than amalgamation. I am not going to pull punches here so I am going to say something that might upset a few folks inside Ibrox. There are soundings also coming out of the club that Rangers are indeed going to be fast-tracked back into the SPL &#8211; that, in effect, a &#8220;deal&#8221; has been done.

    If this is true then it could lead to a head-on confrontation between Charles Green and the Rangers support, who, at present, favour no such move. If such a sell-out is on the cards, expect a big PR initiative from the club, reeling in big Rangers names to talk about how the fast-track is essential for the future of both Rangers and Scottish football.
    You heard it here.
     
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    "The SPL is dead. Watching that death play out slowly and agonisingly will provide much pleasure for fans of Rangers FC. What matters, though, is what replaces it."

    my goodness - this is a stark and frank review of the rangers vs berwick game <yikes>
     
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    :)
     
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    "I was brought up on the fine old traditions of Rangers Football Club."

    Why is it when I read such words I often imagine the author is an overweight, shaven-headed, heavily tattoed bigot with a ****-ugly wife and four equally ugly children?
     
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    <laugh>

    Football bloggers are all ****ers though. Trying to companion football, prose and a lack of perception into something that isn't tragically childish is almost impossible.

    Grown men writing thousands of impassioned words on a daily basis on one ****ey football team. There is no way to write a football blog over the age of 18 without looking like a lonely ****.
     
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    Ah each to their own. There is room for us all in the Celtic family..

    I actually don't mind it when it is done well......It just mostly isn't.
     
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    is he talking about the whopping 160k fine? and does he mean the 12 month transfer ban which lets them sign players in this transfer window? surely to **** no one (apart from rocket) listens to a word this **** says
     
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    [h=2]Rangers Now And Next Year[/h]Posted in Uncategorized on August 28, 2012 by billmcmurdo
    &#8220;Rangers Then, Rangers Now, Rangers Forever&#8221; has become the defiant slogan of bluenoses after the recent crisis. However, it is Rangers now and next year that is the most vital part of this equation. As we hurtle towards this Friday&#8217;s transfer deadline, many Rangers fans are still unaware of the real nature of the transfer embargo imposed upon Rangers by the Scottish Inquisition a.k.a the Scottish Football Association.
    People glibly talk about a year&#8217;s transfer embargo slapped on Rangers but it is effectively a 16 months embargo. Rangers will not be able to sign players from midnight on 31st August 2012 until January 2014, because although the year&#8217;s embargo runs out on 1st September 2013, the next available transfer window does not open until four months later.

    How cunning and devious are those who are seeking to destroy Rangers as a competitive force! (So cunning and devious that they relented and let Rangers sign as many players as they like before the ban started, this was despite the initial punishment being an IMMEDIATE transfer embargo).

    This means that Ally McCoist has until Friday this week to assemble a squad which is not only capable of delivering promotion from SFL3 but is also capable of keeping Rangers in touching distance of promotion from SFL2 in 16 months&#8217; time. (I&#8217;m afraid that I&#8217;m old fashioned in that I believe the nature of punishments should not be decided upon by the people being punished).

    Now it could be argued that the squad of players McCoist is putting together is more than capable of completing these tasks. However, no other manager is working under the types of pressures that Super Ally is, albeit with much more resources at hand than his SFL counterparts. (No other manager is working under the type of pressure that McCoist is? What a bizarre and utterly ridiculous statement).

    The transfer embargo is all part of a masterplan to hobble Rangers. Destroying the Gers entirely is not part of the plan because without Rangers the game in Scotland would sink without trace. (Here we go, we are now entering Paranoia country, the 3 man panel assembled by the SFA are all doubtless Anti Rangers men).

    Harnessing the Rangers pound while severely crippling the team is the plan and so far it is working perfectly. A few years of this and Celtic can rack up Champions League money that they were definitely not guaranteed with a strong Rangers in the SPL. (Yes it was all part of the grand master plan by Regan and Doncaster, one small problem, did both men not do their absolute best to get Rangers into the SPL or SFL1 at least? Is that not why almost every other club in Scotland wanted Regan sacked?)

    I note with interest that Campbell Ogilvie has now come out and said that Rangers will definitely not be fast-tracked up the leagues. He insists that Rangers will not be playing SPL football next year. This is all clever stuff since the league reconstruction into three divisions instead of four will see Rangers placed in a new Division 2 but of course this is not to suit Rangers insists Ogilvie. We know it&#8217;s not to suit Rangers &#8211; it&#8217;s to suit SPL clubs who need the Sky and sponsor money that Rangers&#8217; presence brings to the table.

    In other words, after Stewart Regan let slip that league amalgamation was on the cards, and people easily worked out that such reconstruction would knock a year off of Rangers&#8217; climb back to the &#8220;top,&#8221; Campbell Ogilvie has to come out and say that Rangers won&#8217;t be back next year. A not-so-subtle exercise in deflection from an organisation whose reputation is in shreds. (Here&#8217;s the case in point I mentioned. Regan wants Rangers in the SPL but only for the money? So what exactly do you suggest happens Bill? That Rangers are promoted and are allowed to tak all the TV cash?)

    The SFA/SPL cabal has to appease two groups &#8211; companies like Sky and other sponsors who want Rangers IN and the slavering hordes of Rangers-haters that infest the game who definitely want Rangers OUT as long as possible. (So the SFA/SPL cabal are out to get Rangers? <laugh>)
    Regan has sent a message to the money people while Ogilvie has pandered to the bigots. (Is that the Charles Green defined &#8220;Bigots&#8221; or are you using leggo&#8217;s definition?)

    As subtle as an air raid. (Says the man who thinks anyone who does not want Rangers in the SPL is a Bigot)

    But the full implications of all of this jiggery-pokery should not be lost on Rangers fans. (I have no doubt that you and Leggo will be sure to let everyone know and thereby enforce the siege mentality and rampant paranoia that seems to have set in)

    You see, at this present moment Rangers manager Ally McCoist doesn&#8217;t know if he has to prepare a team that can win Division 3 and then keep within touching distance of the Division 2 title come January 2014, or if he has to build a squad that will compete in a much tougher revamped Division 2 under league reconstruction. (Oh the cunning bastards, now I see their plan, they are allowing Rangers to spend a virtual fortune on as many players as they like, but Rangers don&#8217;t know if these same players will be good enough to compete in SFL2?)

    The vast majority of Rangers fans do not want a change to the present league set-up. They want to see their team climb back up the leagues on merit. (Because it allows them to moan and bleat about being treated unfairly?)

    What Rangers fans definitely do not want is the charge hurled at the club by the bigoted fans of other teams that Rangers&#8217; way back to the upper echelons was made smooth by league reconstruction. (Yes, as I said, they want to be able to complain about how badly their club has been treated)

    It doesn&#8217;t help that Rangers players have let slip to the media that they have been told by Ally McCoist that such a smooth path is going to happen. (Yes I&#8217;m sure that you and they will bitch and whine if Rangers are given a place in the SPL next year)

    It may well be that Charles Green has to face the wrath of Rangers fans if he is in any way complicit with the cabal that is seeking to harness Rangers&#8217; economic power for its own greedy ends. So far Green has only had to deal with Rangers fans&#8217; mistrust but he will lose the cosy relationship he has with the Gers support if he is seen to appease the Rangers-haters of the SFA and SPL. (He actually talks as if with Rangers in the SPL all of Scottish Football&#8217;s problems will evaporate as billions come pouring in from TV deals).

    And it&#8217;s not implausible that Ally McCoist will be facing hostility from Rangers supporters for much more than poor performances against the likes of Berwick if he tries to sell them the fast-track plan. Most Rangers fans want the club to be playing Division Two football this time next year. In a four division set-up as it is now, not the three divisions cobbled together by people whose existence hinges on money generated by the only show in town&#8230;
    The Rangers FC. (The only show in town? You have to laugh at the delusion if not the arrogance)
     
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    Is this the same Bill McMurdo who used to be a football agent?
     
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    His son.

    The apple certainly does not fall far from the tree.
     
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  20. The Raging Oxter

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    Bigotry begets bigotry. Sadly.
     
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