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Ok here Hughes' stats

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Bush Rhino, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    Before I get my head shot off by a not so silent majority/minority here is our manager league record since joining:

    Won 6
    Lost 11
    Drawn 2

    Goals for 20
    Goals against 36

    It looks to me that with this defence we need to double the strike rate !

    My feeling were clear last night, he's had 19 games to sort our defence and it's looking shocking at the moment. The summers signings were shocking in my opinion where we need stability we've got a loan player where we need a CB we play a FB. I'm lost to see how his means justify his ends?

    Yes we have just signed Bosingwa but if we hadn't I truly think more would be calling for heads to roll. If Bosingwa is the answer what do we do if and when he picks up an injury?

    Hill starting at CB this season is not really a good sign IMHO. Did great as cover last year but it's a big ask to do all again. Did anyone spot hill reation when he missed the interception that lead to Dyers goal, he knew it was in before Dyer, worrying.
     
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  2. JudoRanger

    JudoRanger Well-Known Member

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    You really cant use last season against him. He came in midway through the season and picked up a struggling squad.

    yes he made singings in january but you cant work miracles in the middle of a season - no matter who you sign. He has already said he wasnt able to apply some of the tactics he would normally use last season simply because there was no time to make such drastic changes.

    And you can hardly write him off after one game of the season. Yes we should have been much better, but we werent, and it was one of those days. Give the bloke a chance.
     
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  3. Uber_Hoop

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    That extrapolates to a mere 40 points across a full PL season [corrected, 'cos I can't do maths]. On that basis it would be difficult to take issue with you, Bush Ryan O'Neal. The Rs' first 10 games on the fixture list are pretty daunting - of course there are no easy games in the Prem. - but I reckon, after the humiliation by the Swans - that around 14-18 points should be the target. That takes us to 4th November, and if we're too far adrift from this tally by then, then its time to worry. Warnock registered 12 points after 10 games. Until then, I see no value in sitting in judgement... but reserve the right to change my mind!
     
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  4. stereophoney

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    Based on his record history says we'll be fine if he keep to the same ratio. 40 points from 38 games. In the last 10 seasons only 1 team has been relegated with 40 points.

    2011/12 = 16th
    2010/11 = 17th
    2009/10 = 14th
    2008/09 = 16th
    2007/08 = 14/15th
    2006/07 = 16th
    2005/06 = 17th
    2004/05 = 16th
    2003/04 = 17th
    2002/03 = 18th*
     
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  5. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    I guess christmas will be the time to judge really, but this place is going to get real dark real soon if things dont get drastically better. I can't help forming the opinion that MH and his 'team of advisors,scouts,etc should at least have mentioned that there may a problem at the back that needs some serious attention at some point nearer the start of thetransfer window. TBH if in the next 5 games the defence doesn't look better I think a few people will be changing their minds.

    Just can't help feeling we are paying the manager and squad to much for what we are getting in return. lots of frees in this summer but what did we pay in signing on fees? and wages? Again can't help thinking it was too much.

    Thought MH was portayed as the Messiah given what some have said but IMHO he just a naughty boy getting away with it at the mo. I do hope he turns it around and makes I look a total knob however I don't think hes got long. The Owners didn't look happy and won't want to be associated with such dramatic failure for very long. Especially at home!

    Come on u RRRR'sss
     
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  6. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    I Can try <laugh>
     
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  7. JudoRanger

    JudoRanger Well-Known Member

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    :biggrin:
     
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  8. Hoops Eternal

    Hoops Eternal Well-Known Member

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    All I'll say in response is that politicians use statistics to try and convince people that their views are fact and not fiction. Numbers can be manipulated to make them say whatever you want them to say!
     
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  9. DT

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    Look at the stats for yesterday
    We had equal ball time and pass completion and had more shots on target ... Your stats didn't mention how many games we ended with 10 players

    What that his fault ?
    If you think that sacking Hughes now will do the club any favours then you are deluded ... If you ate to be taken seriously on football matters then give us a solution who would you want to bring in ? And let's hear who you would sack from the playing staff ?

    We would become the joke team if we aren't already whats more if we don't win then we sack them... Exactly as per the four year plan
     
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  10. NORTHOLT

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    You know I'm starting to think he ain't a football genius!
     
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    In all fairness, Hughes will be only too aware of the stats and the reasons / excuses that might explain them.

    He more than we know he has his work cut out if he's going to improve on them. Be interesting to see how he goes about it. It's his reputation on the line here.
     
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  12. Vale_Hoops

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    While I think MH got it totally wrong yesterday, it way too early to be talking about sacking him.
     
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  13. Rangers Til I Die

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    He has time to put this right. It may be that there is a CB on the way. Samba or the French kid or some other as yet unknown.

    We do have short memories. If you take the time to trawl through old posts over the summer, there were plenty of people urging caution and warning against excessive predictions for QPR.

    We are a fickle bunch. On the basis of a bad loss we are counting ourselves off as relegation fodder. If we manage to beat Norwich next week we'll see speculation about Europe again.

    As Crannock says in his excellent post, time to move on lads and lasses.
     
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    Before I get my head shot off by a not so silent majority/minority here is our manager league record since joining:

    Won 6
    Lost 11
    Drawn 2

    Goals for 20
    Goals against 36

    I rest my case...<ok> ....sparky is a great guy and a player that was second to none but as a manager then he is lower league at the very best. he was linked to us a few years ago and we were so happy he never came...
     
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  15. sb_73

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    The more pertinent stats are Hughes' overall record as a Premiership Manager. His only finishes outside the top 10 have been first season at Blackburn (took over September) and last season. 3 FA Cup semi finals, two qualifications for Europe.

    But on the basis of yesterday that all means nothing, naturally.
     
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  16. JudoRanger

    JudoRanger Well-Known Member

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    <doh>
    See my reply above - he came in halfway through a season with a struggling side. Any decent footballing fan knows how difficult that is to change the whole ethos of a club during the season.

    But yes, of course your right. :confused:
     
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  17. Bush Rhino

    Bush Rhino Well-Known Member

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    Did look at the stats for yesterday and as much as I try and manipulate the the goals against column it still reads 5.

    What other stats matter?
     
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  18. JudoRanger

    JudoRanger Well-Known Member

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    I completley understand your point of view. But as TF has said numerous times - rome wasnt built in a day. Yesterday was a disaster for sure, but MH has proven with Blackburn and Fulham he gets teams consistently into midtable - exactly where we should aim.
     
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  19. Grifter

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    We got an incredible number of players sent off during his tenure last season, which meant loads of suspensions for his January transfer window purchases(cisse/diakite), and for our illustrious captain.. I felt sorry for Hughes at times- ill discipline of individual players made managing QPR a difficult task.
    Joining halfway through the season and inheriting a struggling squad didn't make it easier. We had to reassemble the team mid-season, that's not an ideal scenario for a manager.
    It's interesting how many people are now suddenly dissatisfied with this summer's signings after a loss. We all loved hoillet, fabio had a great preseason, there was delight at retaining Diakite, and nelson/johnson were considered a valuable addition of premier league experience. That not even mentioning park.We've been linked to numerous center backs throughout the past few months, so the club/Hughes has clearly been looking to adress that weakness... Just because we didn't dive in straight away and buy Heinze or whoever Hughes is now suddenly poor in the transfer market? We liked his January signings too. There's 2 weeks left for gods sake. I'll be delighted if all this holding out for the right CB means we end up with Mbia.
     
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  20. JudoRanger

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    I for sure wasnt happy with Johnson - he is useless imo and has a terrible scoring record.

    But other than that Im happy with who he as brought in.
     
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