Yeah but that was eight years ago, £3m back then is the equivalent of at least £5m in today's money - and we doubled our money on him, as we might well do with Rhodes
Crikey, I've always been one of those who thinks we actually shouldn't sign him, and I've said this a few times over the course of last season but after all this today and thinking about it more I'm on the verge of changing my mind and having him as my number one target! For the record I'd still rather we sign Guidetti if he became available for the same kind of price
I'd sign him tomorrow, I've always rated him, he has something of the Holt about him and that excites me. However, I also accept we are Norwich City and we aren't a club that always gets everything it wants. It's no hassle, I'm just going to keep an eye on how he develops in the next six months in the champ and we'll see.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...riker-John-Guidetti-set-Feyenoord-return.html Doesn't mention how much though, thinking about it though not sure Feyenoord are too far off us budget wise, they probably pay bigger wages though, but Man City seem keen to get rid and he seems to be holding out. Admittedly it's the Daily Fail though. I also don't think Rhodes is a bad player at all, the only reason I wouldn't want him is financial reasons, it is a gamble. I would feel more comfortable about seeing how he does in the Championship. It's a difficult one. Still think Huddersfield would take £5 mill for him.
It wouldn't make that much of a difference in 6 years! We are also much more careful with transfer fees.
munky, let me try one more time, reasonably, no histrionics! You say nobody has given a reasoned argument as to why we shouldn't buy Jordan Rhodes, I say, you haven't been listening then! It's all very well you saying we could afford £5M and £22K per week, but that is NOT the asking price and those are NOT his wage demands! Our club has been to the very brink of financial disaster, we cannot and will not go down that road again! JR could well turn out to be the bargain of the century at those given figures, or he could turn out to be another Andy Carroll or Fernando Torres, who both wilted under the pressure of an oversized price tag! The point of this argument is, because we are now financially stable, with a bright future, our club is not willing to take that risk, we leave those sort of gambles to the QPR's and West Hams of this world! Is that any clearer?
I don't think the figures you have are accurate, like I said huddersfield have inflated transfer fee and wage demands as a warn off to interested parties.
Beefy, those figures of £5M and £22K are munky's figures, not mine, as I understand it, Huddersfield are demanding £7M up front and his wages are allegedly around the £30K mark!
Yeah but they aren't though are they lol, they've just inflated them to warn people off, thats standard practice
Not really no, because you don't know for sure that he is after 30k a week, this is merely hearsay and speculation, probably created by his club to scare clubs off like Beey says. And I maintain that if we COULD get him for the figures I suggested then in my opinion it would certainly be good business. We paid £5m and for Morro and Vaughan last year and between them they'll be earning more than 30 a week for a nine goal return, and if we are looking to offload them both (or just one of them) then it will free up some cash to go out and spend something like £5m on someone who scores goals for fun. Seems pretty simple to me. Who do you suggest we go for then? We should still have a big chunk of our transfer budget left so what would you rather, make do with what we've got until January when it might be too late just like it was when Worthy didn't sign Ashton unt January? That would be bonkers if you ask me. And come off it comparing this with the Carroll or Torres situation, £5m is a tiny fraction of what they cost, and Carroll has never scored goals of the volume Rhodes has! Nothing like a bit of exaggeration to try to win an argument eh? Oh, and slightly different matter but I makes me laugh when people go on about what a flop Torres was last year. Yeah, winning the Champs League, the Euros and the Golden Boot in said competition is just terrible isn't it! Ok, he didn't score as many goals as he'd have liked for Chelsea, but he made something like 20 assists and watch him go this season now he's out of Drogba's shadow
munky i don't think we are as desperate for a striker as we were with worthy in the prem. We proved last year we can score goals and i expect the midfield to add more than they did last season. It could be a problem, but I think its a different situation as then. Especially when there are probably areas that need strengthening first. Agree about torres mind, think he will bang them in this season.
I have to say, there are some good arguments for and against signing JR (and my username is for JOHN RUDDY btw!!!) and everyone is being alllowed to have their say - the true purpopse of a forum. I'll add my views. I don't think we should be signing him just yet - if at all. Let's just wait and see how we progress until the transfer window reopens. I can see that Holt will be more closesly marked than he wa last season, but that will lead to the possibility of others having better oportunities to score and as we have a very attack minded midfield, I hope that will be the case. Roll on 3pm tomorrow when I'll be down one of the local pubs showing the game!!!!
don't know about his wage demands if a transfer fee were to be agreed (no deal has ever been agreed, so impossible to know!) but he is certainly on more than £20k a week at huddersfield - this is public knowledge - so i can't imagine he'd be asking for similar or less. is it right that a player who has never played above league one level come straight in to a team of premier league players, immediately to become top earner? sounds like madness to me and a recipe for disaster. the fee of £7m is up front plus add ons, and you are totally right - it is there to scare of possible suitors - and its worked well. not sure how its any different to us sticking a £6m price tag on grant holt this summer - to the outside world, fans said he was 'never worth that' but to us he was, and probably more! lets put this in context. west ham, a club who have announced that they are admirers of rhodes are shirking at the asking price - they have moved on to look at cheaper targets. this is a club, west ham, who recently went on record saying they were prepared to pay andy carroll a six-figure sum a week! this is not a club careful with its dosh, yet even they are put off by the absurd price tag. my personal opinion is that jordan rhodes is a good player, a good striker. nobody knows if he'd cut it in the top flight until given the chance. i would hazard a guess, based on what i've seen, that he'd score goals at any level - he wouldn't bang in 40, he might get to double figures - he's a natural finisher. is he worth £7m up front? no chance, not in a million years. is he worth £3m up front? yeah, i think so. is he worth the risk at the moment? no, not at his current price. as i've said for ages now, someone will gamble on him at some point - it won't be this summer at the current asking price. clubs will be patient, see how he copes with the step up in level. there will always be clubs desperate to add firepower to their squad in january - we might be one of them - and that is when you are likely to see a deal from someone, if he continues to progress. hughton may personally be a big fan, even if our scouting network is not convinced by his worth, you never know. but the fact no club is prepared to take that chance says a lot about his valuation. on a side note, agree with munky about torres. i think he'll come good now chelsea are building a team around him rather than drogba
Firstly, that type of indecisive action led us to be relegated from the PL last time around; we brought Ashton in January and despite his goals, it wasn`t enough to keep us up. Secondly, you fail to understand that this season`s survival reward will see us participate in the largest TV money handout ever in 13/14, talking £20m min. more than 12/13. Therefore the stakes are much higher, especially with the impending financial penalties imposed on the Championship clubs, effectively making it extremely unattractive for any rich owners to splash the cash above what they earn. This will have the unfortunate impact of making club`s asking fees for their players shoot through the roof. Consider that! Thirdly, he was marked for most of last season as the dangerman, but that made little difference, I hardly expect Jackson to transform into a 12 goal machine Lastly, one of the posters above mentioned a VERY GOOD POINT. Namely that Vaughan and Morison cost nearly £5m for a 9 goal return: that is simply not good enough. We should cash in for a younger player, namely Rhodes, with more potential, and with a good fitness record. Also, we should be selling Barnett and Chris Martin as they are not PL quality.
As a caveat, when I spoke of Torres, I was meaning the six months or so following his £50M move to Chelsea when not only did he not score, he even missed open goals on at least two occasions, I concur he is now on the road to rediscovering the location of his shooting boots!
comparing us under worthy to now is completely wrong. we had very little goal threat going into that season and our manager was naive. totally different situations and in no way comparable. also, the point about £5m is slightly wrong. vaughan only cost £1m up front with the rest coming with appearances, morison was £2.6m, so that makes a total of £3.6m. ok, its still a decent sum of money but rhodes is valued at double that! that is NOT good business, losing two capable players for half the price of one who may or may not cut it!!
Goldeneye - it doesn't matter how many million times you say it, it just will not happen! can we find a new subject matter now?
I was under the impression that Vaughan virtually didn`t exist last season, contributed absolutely nothing, therefore we would be losing one capable player, namely Morison.
