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Next season's final league table

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by safcrealist, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    But what if the Cisse that played against Sunderland plays for 80% if the season. He was anonymous and hardly had a kick against us. If he gets "found out" then he might not get 10 goals. (doubt it very much but it is a possibility after watching him play against us)
     
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  2. trouble_n_stripes

    trouble_n_stripes Active Member

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    I don't see any side breaking into this top 4 made up of the two Manchester sides, Chelsea and Arsenal.

    After that it's up for grabs for 5th-8th between 4-5 sides.

    Then the rest, us included taking up the 9th-20th positions.
     
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  3. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    far to hard to predict at the minute as its going to be a very busy last 14-15days of the transfer window.

    We need 5 or 6 still to come in (LB, CM, W, W, CF, CF) if we get them then we can have a really good season IMO

    I personally think its going to be the best premier league season since the premier league started and I think there will be like every season 4 or 5min leagues within the main league.

    IMO


    Group 1 - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea

    Group 2 - Arsenal, Tottenham

    Group 3 - Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton

    Group 4 - Fulham, Sunderland, QPR, West Ham, Aston Villa, Swansea, Wigan

    Group 5 - Stoke, Norwich, Southampton, WBA, Reading
     
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  4. Colin Sharpe

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    by luck, do you mean like the beach ball, genuine luck, or do you just mean we were lucky to score some goals and win some games, we were lucky we won away from home etc, i.e. the normal nonsense that is written off as luck :)
     
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  5. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    I agree it will be twice as difficult given the appalling schedule UEFA produce for there secondary competition (if you don't win it then it's almost pointless being in it due to no massive financial gain), but if it was achieved at what point would it stop being "luck" and become astute management of the squad/players by Pardew, Carver etc...
     
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  6. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    <ok> Completely agree, with one, maybe two teams in each group possibly jumping up a group or moving down a group (which is just another way of saying I have no idea where anyone is going to finish :laugh:)! Anyhow, either way Saturday can't come soon enough for me!!
     
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  7. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    A shot cleared off the line. A goal kick given when it was a corner. A free kick taken from 9 instead of 10 yards. A corner from outside the quadrant.... a penalty for a dive.... a hard man midfielder flattened by a tap on his chest.

    All definitions of good luck.

    Dont you think?

    x
     
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  8. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Disagree completely, a shot cleared off the line is good defending, not luck!

    For me luck is defined by scoring a goal that crossed the line but didn't get given, or scoring a goal that is two yards offside but still gets awarded. Luck is something that isn't in your control, the examples given by you (other than a goal kick given when it was a corner) are just different variables of a football match IMO.
     
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  9. Colin Sharpe

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    - a shot cleared off the line, good defending, not luck ! its usually the result of fast reactions and good positioning, i.e. a good defender, plus arguably a less than top notch striker who might have placed the ball better

    free kicks and goal kicks are small advantages from refereeing decisions, they don't have a huge impact over the course of a whole season and they tend to balance out over sporting formats with many clashes (world championship snooker being another good example)

    a free kick for going to ground after a lesser player gets in a flap and lashes out because he was out played - see above, its not lucky to have good players that frustrate the opposition

    i give you the penalty one, but again, these things even out.
     
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  10. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you lot sack Bobby Robson?
     
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  11. Colin Sharpe

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    that'll be the red whine talking
     
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  12. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    In which way is that relevant to the OP?

    And I think you'll find you should address the great man as Sir Bobby...
     
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  13. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    nOT RELEVANT TO THE OP AT
















    Not relevant to the op at all, just your name.

    Did you sack SIR Bobby or not?

    x
     
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  14. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Yes he was sacked, not sure what you're getting at though??? Just because he was sacked doesn't mean we don't worship the man! It was a decision that 99.9% of the fans were very much against. <ok>
     
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  15. bonnybobbypark

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    So. A club that listens
     
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  16. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    We will be top ten.
    The skunks lucky run last season, wont carry on this season they will be "lucky" to end up top 10 this season.
     
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  17. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Good luck is what we sunderland fans wish each other on these forums.

    Bad luck is finding bell ends like you instead of them.
     
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  18. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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  19. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Erm that's just simply a lie to cover the embarrassment you all now feel about his sacking.

    At the time, the radio stations and newspapers were absolutely full of mags telling anyone who would actually listen that he was too old, past it and tactically old school. It was fan pressure that made fat Freddie act to sack him.

    I'm afraid the re-writing of history may fool all of you internally but everyone else knows your fans drove the bloke out. Even Mary Poppins undermine the bloke from within and now tries to make on he did nowt but worship the bloke.

    Hypocritical to say the least.
     
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  20. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Majority of the interviews given to the media by fans (especially SSN) are given during the the day (when all the sober fans are at work). Huge majority of toon supporters I know wanted him to stay on.
     
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