A small sample. An interesting wee debate has popped up on the Facebook page Expose The Conspiracy Against Glasgow Rangers. The page occasionally links to the Vote No To Scottish Independence page. Some people recently took exception to that because they are pro-separation. I am well aware that some Rangers fans support Scottish independence. It is one of life’s curiosities. What I don’t understand is how they claim to be bluenoses whilst ignoring the undeniable Unionist ethos of the club. There are Union flags everywhere. The fans sing “Rule, Britannia” and “God Save The Queen” at every game. The Rangers dressing room famously has a picture of Her Majesty The Queen hanging in it. British songs are played at home games and Britishness is all around. Now I get it that some may still harbour separatist viewpoints and turn a blind eye to all this pomp and circumstance. But their vehemence against the Union shows that they are real haters, not just casual dissenters. One poster just said that all supporters of the Union were traitors. That would be the vast majority of his fellow Rangers supporters, then! How can you follow a club when the club itself and its fans are diametrically against what you claim to stand for? This baffles me. It’s not for me to say who is a plastic or a Lundy; we know there are plenty of them. What I don’t get is how you can claim to be a bluenose if you are not in step with the very ethos of Rangers. Rangers are a Unionist club with a predominantly Unionist and loyalist support (i.e. loyal to the Throne). Even David Murray kept that tradition going and his contempt for a lot of fans’ traditions was well-known. It would be easy to say that separatists and anti-Monarchists cannot be true Rangers supporters. That would be a tad judgmental, perhaps. That is why I have framed the question the other way: How can you follow Rangers if you hate the Union and our Queen so passionately? Did nobody tell you Rangers are called “The Queen’s Eleven?” Can’t you hear tens of thousands of your fellow supporters singing GSTQ and other pro-British anthems? Don’t you see the flag you claim to hate flown proudly at every Gers game?
It’s coming down to the wire now in respect of the future of Rangers. SFA membership has, at time of writing, still to be granted and if fellow blogger David Leggat is to be believed, it will all be about whether Charles Green surrenders to a Celtic-driven push within the football corridors of power to have Rangers stripped of titles won under the EBT years. Celtic’s continued accusation of cheating directed at Rangers is just the latest salvo in the long campaign of bile and propaganda from Scotland’s shame club.It must be borne in mind that Celtic also used EBTs and the payment of certain players – Roy Keane and Juninho among them – is still to be properly investigated in terms of propriety and adherence to SFA/SPL rules.
That's the problem with the internet, eventually the idiotic figure out how to open their own blog and give themselves a soap box to preach to the idiotic masses.
IT'S A CRAZY WORLD I'm a Celtic fan who is pro Iraq war, has sympathy for Israel and has no interest in independence... No wonder I "dont go to games"
Dev used to point guns at fellow Celtic fans and we still kinda tolerate him, although I guess he may have to put his fingers in his ears every now and again.
I don't want to appear contradictory here but the debate over independence and unionism is completely separate. Alex Salmond has said that an independent Scotland would retain the Queen as Head of State. In one interview he even claimed independence wouldn't break the union because other Countries (Canada, Australia) ran their own economic affairs and were still considered to be British. Disingenious of the man but an argument easily torn apart by analysts. For the record I've always believed Scotland would be better off as an independeny Country. The fact that I would prefer to see a Scottish Republic is inconsequential to my football leanings
Hating Rangers – The New National Sport Posted in Uncategorized on August 16, 2012 by billmcmurdo The Tartan Army gave Charles Green all he needs last night to answer SFA Compliance Officer Vincent Lunny’s charge of bringing the game into disrepute. The campaign of hate-filled persecution against Rangers sunk to new lows as Scotland supporters booed Ian Black on his debut appearance for the national side. If this is not evidence of bigotry shown towards Rangers then what is? It is not evidence of anything but that Ian Black is not popular with some people who attended Easter Road last night, it is certainly not evidence of “Bigotry” or “Hate Filled Persecution against Rangers”. Doubtless though the bold Bill will backtrack if confronted and argue semantics “Charles Green like” over the definition of “Bigotry”. Unless someone interviews every single fan who booed Black we will never know the reasons why he was booed and anyone who is prepared to make ridiculous claims as McMurdo has done here deserves nothing but scorn and derision. Shamefully Scotland boss Craig Levein tried to pass it off as a bit of humour by claiming it was Hibs fans booing Black because he was once a Jambo. However, he himself played for Hearts and was not subject to the same abuse. Therefore the “Hibees” angle is a poor and frankly despicable way to pass this off. What exactly is shameful about hazarding a guess on the reasons why Black was booed? I would have said that accusing the booers as being nothing but “Bigots” or “Rangers haters” without any evidence to back that assertion up is far more “shameful”. To be blunt, Rangers-hating has replaced football as the national sport. We saw this earlier in the year when so-called fans of other teams admitted they would rather see their own teams go to the wall than allow Rangers back into the SPL. To be blunt you are a ****ing ****** who seems to be living in LeggoWorld. You may view the various fan groups’ decision to rail against Rangers entry into the SPL as hate, or a willingness to “see their own teams go to the wall”, but that does not make it a fact, only your idiotic “view”, which as can clearly be seen is as one sided as your average Follow Follow subscriber. Scotland is, sadly, replete with these petty-minded haters. Scotland is, as I have previously written, Bigotry Central – where hatred towards Rangers and everything the club stands for is allowed to breed and infest the populace. Yes Bill you have nailed it, the number one social problem in Scotland is that Rangers fans are being picked on by everyone else, ergo they must be “bigots” these people, could you explain why? Rangers fans are not ignorant of the reasons why this bitter, vile campaign is being waged. As a potent symbol and bastion of Unionist and loyalist support, Rangers fans present a very powerful threat to certain political aspirations in Scotland held by those who want to tear apart the UK. No-one is dumb enough to believe that the hatred and bigotry shown towards Rangers is purely football-based. It is the things Rangers stand for that make them the target of venom and prejudice. Of course, we can expect no determined drive from the SFA nor those in power at the Scottish Parliament to eradicate this type of bigotry from Scottish football and society at large. Scotland, as we have seen time and again, is supposed to be a country that embraces many cultures and tolerates prejudice to none. He’s onto us, everyone who hates Rangers only hates them because they are Unionists/Proddies. Unless that culture is Unionist, of course. Now what’s interesting about this is that most Scots are Unionists. Which means that the intolerance and prejudice towards Unionism comes from a very vocal minority. Catholics you mean? To counter this campaign of hate and prejudice, those who favour the Union should maybe get a bit more vocal and active themselves. And what better rallying point than the club that imbues a staunch Unionist and pro-British ethos – the mighty Glasgow Rangers? When 300,000 Rangers supporters travelled south for a game of football in 2008, I am sure it sent chills of fear down the backs of those opposed to Rangers’ Unionist ethos. If such vast numbers can be mobilised for one game of football, what else can they be mobilised for? If haters of Rangers keep pushing the club and its fans, they will find out. That sounds like a threat? Jesus H Christ. Honestly, is McMurdo for real? No wonder they called him ‘Agent Orange’, I honestly thought it was a bit of a joke name which was a convenient and amusing monicker which had no real basis in truth. Who would have thought that the people who gave him this epithet were 100% correct. He is pandering to the sort of nutcases who belive that there is some massive conspiracy of Taigs, Gypsies and non Prods who want to overthrow the hundreds of years of good old fashioned Protestantism, and what better way to underline your Protestantism than by getting behind Rangers and becoming a raving paranoid lunatic.
