I don't understand why SAF is trying to buy Van Persie, even though he is one of the best strikers in the world it seems like a waste of money if you consider the amount of strikers at the club already and also his decision to fast track the signing of Angelo Henriquez. That would take the number of centre forwards at the club to 7 (Rooney, Welbeck, Chicharito, Berbatov, Macheda) plus RVP and Henriquez if he gets his work permit. Last Season Rooney played as a number 10 but ended up with number 9 stats plus he is better as a number 9 because when he plays as a 10 it becomes a 442 and against better teams it makes the midfield outnumbered, Which is why I thought Kagawa was bought, but if SAF goes on to buy Van Persie for £20m plus and gives him Rooney type wages, You can only justify that by playing him with Rooney, which only means that Kagawa would have to be moved to the wing or in to a two man central midfield or even worse to the bench, which makes the team only marginally better than it was last season as it was shown when Utd played against the stronger teams with a 442. Even If SAF decides to go with one striker in Europe or against the stronger teams in the PL, then that means that one of Rooney or RVP is going to be on the bench and the big question is how are they going to handle being benched, as these are two of the most important players in the world and i am sure they have the egos to go with that as well and they will not like sitting on the bench against the likes of a City, or Chelsea, an Arsenal or a Liverpool, even worse will be if they have to sit down for the likes of a Real or Barca and if this happens then it would create a huge problem for SAF and in effect the club, at least on the playing side, but if he decides to just play the two of them anyway then he would be settling for the best players instead of the best team and ultimately you end up winning nothing. Obviously there are other options he has like moving Rooney out wide but in all honesty he is not better than Valencia, Nani or Young out wide. And If he plays Kagawa wide or in central midfield the he would have just been a wasted signing and would be better off at a club prepared to play him in his rightful position and improve him as a player. He would also be stunting the growth and development of Welbeck and Hernandez as well as Macheda and the prospective signing of Henriquez and that is even without mentioning Berbatov . The one thing I hope for next season is to not see players being played in the wrong positions due to injury and being classed as versatile, when they do not provide the quality needed to play in that position. When they can sort out the positions that need covering right now such as the two full back positions and a central or defensive midfielder and maybe a young winger (left preferably) to cover for any injuries to the 3 main wingers rather than going for the luxury that is RVP when it is clearly not needed at this stage.
Well Henrique will probably go on loan and Berbatov and Macheda will leave, Berba sold and Mac on loan. That leaves 3 strikers, an injury to any of them leaves us very short up top and while Nani and Kagawa can both fill in it would be better to use their talents in their favoured position. Im not a massive fan of the transfer as RVP is a bit of a dick but it makes more sense than people think. Rooney goes through a bad patch without fail every year, so having another world class striker in the team nullifies that when it does happen. Plus.... Nani--Rooney--RVP -----Kagawa------ Or any of the many different combinations we would have
SAF seems to see something in Macheda and always seems to give him a chance maybe because of his youth and maybe he shows a lot of potential in training, only SAF knows why so I wouldn't count on him leaving anytime soon maybe on loan, As for Henriquez, I find it unlikely that SAF will send a new 18yr Old signing out on loan, he usually keeps them around for a year at the very least to adapt to the surroundings, cultures and traditions of the club and I agree that Berbatov has no future at the club. If SAF is going to use a 442 then I can agree with the signing of RVP but don't expect to win any major trophies but if he is going to go with one centre forward then it is just a luxury signing because even if Rooney goes through his bad patch, Is RVP just there to cover for him, What about when Rooney is in great form does RVP get relegated to the bench, because then his ego come in to play, same as if Rooney is ever relegated to the bench, And any of these scenarios (442 or 4231)make it impossible for welbeck or hernandez to get any worthwhile playing time because going back to the carling cup will stunt their developments and your suggestions on formation (playing RVP out wide) is redundant because he is not better out wide than any of the wingers at the club and you will just be reducing the quality in production on the pitch.
If we get him than Berba will most probably leave and Macheda and Bebe will either go out on loan or also leave, dont know whats happening with regards to Henriquez
But at what cost to the team if he gets dropped for the big games when utd usually play one up front and throws a strop. Remember Holland at euro 2012
RVP would play ahead of 3 in the big games. --------RVP--------- Kagawa-Rooney-Nani ---Cleverly-Carrick Evra-Vidic-Rio-Valencia -----De Gea------- Something like that, can swap loads round aswell and it still works. Its all about options, welbeck will play plenty of games.
Nothing against RVP probably the top striker in the PL I am just concerned at what it would do to the team dynamics because i thought buying kagawa was a way to address the shortcomings of having to only play with two central midfielders and always get outnumbered in midfield, so by buying RVP either SAF keeps playing 442 and still get outnumbered in midfield or he plays 451 or 4231 and either he or Rooney gets benched to accommodate kagawa because he will be the best number 10 at the club and like i said earlier if kagawa is shunted out wide or to the centre of midfield to accommodate rooney or rvp he basically becomes less effective as there are better players in those positions than him. Like i mentioned previously Rooney is best played up front on his own as he seems to be a very prolific scorer who has a knack of being in the right place at the right time and will allow kagawa to play the role behind as he is better at linking up the play with his one and two touch passing as well as having a tendency to go for short passes and one twos around the box which rooney does not do as much as he used to when he was younger
I think you need to punctuate better. Can definitely see Rooney playing as number 10 off RVP in the big games. He's a quality number 10, and drops deep to help out in midfield so we effectively play with three in the middle and two up top. That's probably SAF's thinking behind RVP - he is the most effective way to allow Rooney to drop deep and influence the game without leaving us lacking up front.
Kagawa has looked pretty decent as part of a midfield 2 at times in pre season, compliments Carrick well tbf. Perhaps thats where SAF sees him, much like scholes did, start high up the pitch ( striker in scholes case, AM in kagawas ) and edge further back over time. Hes got the passing ability and the football brain.
City have Tevez and Aguero. Given they probably have a better midfield, depending how good Kagawa turns out to be, it's imperative to have two world-class forwards to have a chance this season.
why buy RVP? simple, to mask your managers complete abysmal failure at the transfer market this summer. You failed to land many of your main transfer targets, you failed to get Hazard, and then failed to get Lucas. So your manager wants to get RVP now to mask all of that, and to show everyone he made a 'big' signing, when in reality Manu don't even need a striker, and are simply purchasing a 29 year old striker who knows this will be his last major contract so he wants to make the most out of it, and the most money possible.
Perhaps. Maybe he'd just like a very good striker who is keen to move to a bigger club more likely to win something?
I do not view RVP as a great signing as it happens. But I do not think SAF has any need to mask anything or to prove his ability to anyone by signing a player he doesn't want to sign. Nonsense
Manunited won nothing last year. And Arsenal have made quality additions this year to help us win something, RVP said he wanted to see ambition, we have shown a lot with our signings with potentially more to come. It doesn't change the fact though, that Manu have failed in aquiring 2 of their main targets, Hazard, and Lucas. And Manu are in greater need of strengthening their midfield than their attacking options. FACT!
bitter? your the cock who keeps following me around, if anyone's bitter, i'd say it's you, after all the times i've bum spanked you.
