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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Enricky., Aug 11, 2012.

  1. McFuckFace

    McFuckFace New Member

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    But what of the new tournamet paid bigger money?? Money talks in football....
     
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  2. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    All this has already happened. Its not like we might do it, its all been signed bar the nike deal which will be around £50million a year. Hell Liverpool get 25 and erm..... yeh they aint United on the global scale <ok>
     
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  3. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    It would be shared between the clubs which were not the money clubs. If free reign was given these clubs could just go berserk so what would be the point having them. If they were involved then rules similar to the FFP would be brought it basically rendering the who thing pointless and meaning staying under Uefa while not ideal was no different.
     
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  4. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I did but still you can get out played and win everything.

    Chelsea proved that <ok>
     
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  5. McFuckFace

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    My opinion of FFP remains the same guys, it is set up purely to keep the big clubs big and the small clubs small whilst hiding behind the idea that its to protect the smaller teams from these horrible billionaires. lol
     
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  6. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Should poin t out revenues will be partly down to success but it should be noted that TV income and sponsorship deals I mentioned will be there regardless.

    We had a bad season this season financially, our revenues have dropped slightly though are cushioned by the £12million Chevrolet are giving us for **** all <ok>
     
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  7. Swarbs

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    Not really. Like I said, Utd went out in the group stage this season and it mattered not one iota. The contracts are all signed by the broadcasters way in advance - they agree a flat fee per year. ITV don't have the right to turn around and say "Oh, Utd and Real aren't in the competition this year, so we won't pay the £50 million we are contractually obliged to pay". UEFA could exclude any club that breaches its rules, and the TV rights deal will not be affected. All that might be affected would be the profits of the respective broadcasters.

    Aye, Forest did it the hard way. They beat AEK Athens, Grasshopper, Köln, Malmö FF, Öster, Arge&#351; Pite&#351;ti, Dynamo Berlin, Ajax and Hamburg. Basically all they needed to do was turn up, barring the games against Ajax and Hamburg. That was the problem with the EC - the vast majority of the clubs came from the poorer leagues, and there were only ever three or four clubs who could feasibly win it each year. So you only needed to beat a couple of good teams and the cup was yours. The CL is much harder cos 90% of the teams come from the top leagues, so you face a stern challenge in every round.

    Not really. UEFA could simply threaten to ban the national associations of those clubs from the Euros, or ban all their clubs from European competition. FIFA would support UEFA and get them thrown out of the World Cup. Just like they did to FC Sion. Ultimately, the clubs that tried to break away would always be in the minority, and faced with expulsion from their domestic leagues they would have to back down. If they tried to go to court, that's against FIFA statutes, and again they would be kicked out.

    You forget how big a monopoly FIFA and UEFA have over football.
     
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  8. McFuckFace

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    On a seriously note... The old style European cup was alot harder to win hands down lol
     
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  9. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    It is in some ways. But also to protect these clubs from billionaires and millionaires who decide to **** off and leave the club to deal with the problems they have caused <ok>

    Rather protec all clubs than allow a few to benefit for however long the owner stays around, be it 1, 10 or a 100 years.
     
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  10. Swarbs

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    Let's not go there again. See my argument above. Any tournament where you can get to the semi final without playing a single team from any of the top leagues is not as hard to win as one where you are forced to play a team from the top leagues in pretty much the first round.
     
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  11. McFuckFace

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    and you wonder why they big clubs are backing this??? lol
     
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  12. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    I could be wrong, but I'm guessing those figures are as make believe as the advertising campaigns I mentioned. I made up those advertising campaigns as a joke.
     
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  13. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I would like to see them run an old style european cup just for one season to see what happens.

    The clubs representing England, Spain, Germany and Italy would be the 4 clubs in the semi finals. I guarantee it. They would obliterate clubs from the other leagues in most cases <ok>
     
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    They are as real as you and me.

    They are confirmed figures bar the nike deal which is expected.
     
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  15. McFuckFace

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    I simply dont agree.. I know as a Man Utd fan you have it drilled into yourself that football simply didn't exist before the EPL but you have to see where I am coming from. Forest played and beat all before them back in the day which shows as much about how good they were than how poor the other were. Are Barcelona **** and the rest of us just even ****ter?? no lol they are just head and shoulders above the rest as Forest were.
     
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  16. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    Okay provide the evidence, included the forecasted £500 million revenue.
     
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  17. McFuckFace

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    oh but sir lol you are missing something very important here! Only the Champions qualify for the cup from each country not half of the league like it is now. But football in that format doesn't make much money as its straight knock out and UEFA and the TV companies like the league format as it pretty much assure the bigger teams makes the latter stages.

    And it comes right back to money again lol
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    The revenue is a little hard as its forecasted not actual but I can provide the shirt sponsor ship deal of £357million signed recently with Chevrolet and the TV deal signed by Sky and BT Vision with the Premier League a month back. Give me a minute <ok>

    http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/st...ceive-559-million-chevrolet-shirt-sponsorship

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/13/premier-league-tv-rights-3-billion-sky-bt
     
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  19. Swarbs

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    Would be good to see. Mainly cos if they did it then Barcelona, Utd, Bayern, Milan and Arsenal wouldn't qualify next season.

    How to make a competition harder? Take out more than half of the top ranked teams apparently <ok>
     
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  20. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    Wasn't the Chevrolet deal £210 million over 7 years commencing in 2014? So where are you getting the extra £147 million from? Doesn't the deal involving Sky and BT involve all clubs? Isn't a 20 team premier league?
     
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