Debt doesnt count in FFP. You can have debt and still perate perfctly fine as a club. Its when your debt and interest payments are bigger than what you can afford to pay that it becomes an issue ( Rangers )
I think you are buying into the fake-dream Platini and his cronies are trying to sell here. FFP has been setup to protect the likes of Man Utd, Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid from clubs like City and Chelsea. UEFA dont care if Pompey go out of business lol
Who do you think been putting pressure on UEFA to bring this in?? THE BIG CLUBS LOL - If the big clubs are the only ones that are allowed to splash money around then everything is back to normal and the big clubs are happy.
Maybe. The football leagues haste to implement these rules and make them even tougher leads me to believe the small clubs wanted this as much if not more than the big clubs.
Erm.... German clubs started it, none of which except Bayern have much financial power in the grand scheme of things. Lower division clubs are in full support. Italian clubs have accepted the rules knowing full well they are unable to pass. Everyone bar the Premier League clubs accepted the FFP rules without question, a few PL clubs didnt, City were one who objected. Chelsea did not.
Real Madrid couldn't pay their debts a few years back so the city council (or Spanish equivilent ) bought their training ground for way over the odds, and then built them a new better training ground.
I never said Liverpool weren't party to ''commercial whoring''. In modern football, there is two ways to succeed, one is the ''Sugar Daddy model'' adopted by Manchester City, Chelsea and Paris St Germain. The other is, is what is known as selling the brand that you yourself established. Clubs like Liverpool and Manchester United(who were actually the first) and to a lesser extent Arsenal use this option. However both exploit when done correctly the loopholes within the FFP.
Not all big clubs would pass o make massive money. AC Milan Inter Milan Juventus Valencia Athletico Madrid Celtic Rangers ( yeh maybe not thse **** ****s ) Chelsea None of these are exactly rolling in self made cash right now.
Since spain went tits up as an economy this sort of stuff will no longer happen. Europe has its eyes on spains finances and they will be brave to try it. Anyway its money you earn not what debt you have. Madrid earn **** loads of it.
Plus... The spanish league is financially stacked in the favour of Real Madrid and Barcelona who each receive 25% of the TV income and the other half is tossed to the other teams in La Liga. I'm pretty sure under the FFP rules that will somehow be shoe-horned in to ensure these big clubs meet the FFP. The end result of FFP remains the same. The big clubs stay big and the small clubs stay small which will ruin football. The likes of Man Utd and Liverpool want to secure there place at the big boy table of football by cutting down the upstarts. Football is a game built on results on the pitch not deals done off it. Look at Leeds and Nottingham Forest?? they are once-powerhouses of the english game that are now stuggling in lower leagues trying to keep their heads above water due to bad financial and in the end on the pitch results. (not so much forest now mind)
But they are in debt still... what happens to if those debts are called in? history shows us that the debt is actually getting bigger not smaller...
Without FFP in a decade half of La Liga would of gone bust. Leeds' spending beyond their means ****ed them up. Every team has the right to earn money on the pitch and through sponsorship deals, over time if they put the work in they could become successful. Clubs dont want to put the hard work in over a long period of time to build sustainable and successful football clubs. They want it now. FFP will make them work for it.
The problem with Chelsea is that they pay massive wages that they simply cant afford. If the owner got bored and ****ed off they would be deep in the brown stuff. Saying that... I think the land Stamford Bridge is on is worth a small fortune and they could keep afloat by selling that and building a ground somewhere else.
At times it feels like Mancini is a kid in a sweet shop and I'm pleased Marwood is there to reign him in.Chasing after van Persie and hazard was just ridiculous,we certainly don't need either player. The chase of Agger is different as that's where we need cover but he's much too good a player to get in as back up and neither Agger or Lescott will want to be the one on the bench every week Richards could cover at centre back but he's a much better right back
Then it would become a serious issue for them and perhaps under FFP they would be banned from the CL or docked points. Right now they make a profit so are fine.
Where were the cries for financial fair play when only MUFC could afford the top players and top wages in this country?? Newcastle and Blackburn started all this when they started spilling the cash back at the start of the EPL. MUFC were able to overcome these teams but they are not able to compete with Chelsea or City.... so they go running to UEFA! lol Its soooo blindingly obvious why FFP has been bought in lol I can't believe you dont see it.
I do think players with certain length contracts should be 'unapproachable' to protect teams from what are sometimes quite obvious unsettling tactics.
Well first of all United have rarely been the top spenders or indeed the club playing the highest wages. Secondly we quite clearly have been able to overcome Chelsea and it remains to be seen with City but I for one am very confident we will do. Would you say we are not competing with Chelsea and City on the pitch. Would you not say Tottenham, Newcastle, Liverpool and Arsenal have not all competed with Chelsea over the years? 3 of them did so last season domestically. Clubs like spurs are showing now that they are able to compete with the likes of Chelsea and City. In a time when the Champions League is supposed to be more closed off than ever Spurs but for Chelsea winning it have finished in the top 4 2 out of the last 3 seasons. They had not done so before hand.
Big clubs no matter who they are can collapse in a matter of years if it goes wrong on the pitch no matter how many fans or millions they have in the bank. I think the big clubs are trying to protect themselves here from becoming the next Leeds or Forest. What happens when the FFP is in full swing and Man Utd have lost Fergie, Injuries to key players and the bad signings have catching up with them?? what if by Xmas 2016 they are sat at the foot of the EPL looking at relegation come the summer. Will they be allowed to spend out of there budget to save themselves???
