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Well said MAJR

 

But how? The Football League can not see into the future. Neither can they make subjective judgements about who may or may not be a suitable owner of a football club. There are many people to be angry at but I think the Football League are well down the list.

 

So you want an "ironclad test", you also want people who also have the "clubs best interest at heart", but in the next breath you agree to Cahainrai "if it meant the club survived". How on earth can the FA judge someone's interests in the club. from the outside it looks to me like Chaninria's only interest is getting his money out, not what's best for the Club. yet you would have him pass the FAPPT. Your opinion is that he is a FAPP, what if the FA dissagree and think, this guy sold the club to CSI before, only wants his money so we're going to bar him. No doubt the Blue Few will be rallying against that.

The FAPPT can only be what it is, it can not second guess people's motives or what they may or may not do.

You have siad yourself that you will take Chainrai if it means the club survives. When he gets his hands on next years PP, gets his loans back and throws you to the wolves, no doubt you'll blame the FA for allowing him to pass the FAPPT.

 

I think Qwerty that the anger directed at the FL is in respect of the FSA refusal to allow Antonov to open a branch of Snoras bank in the UK due to (what they said was) his dishonesty. A very quick google search brought that up.

 

I can say I want an ironclad test in one breath then say I would accept Chainrai without hesitation in the next because I am being realistic. Pompey dont have many options right now. Its either Chainrai who would be in it just to get his money back or the Trust who have the clubs best interests at heart but may not have the finance. Chainrai is the more viable option and since our hands are tied we have to accept that he's likely to be the next owner even though none of us particularly want him and he doesn't particularly want the club. My opinion is not that he is Fit and Proper but that he is the oinly real option to ensure the clubs immediate survival.

The Football League could ensure that the owners have the clubs best interests at heart by demanding a precise business plan before agreeing to a takeover, by conducting an indepth investigation into the past of potential owners before agreeing to a takeover (and not just complain that they cant afford to do it!), by employing and enforcing strick rules on spending and regularly checking the financial dealing of those clubs then punishing those that do not fall within their rules. Football League have been far to lax in controling their members for over 20 years now and it is frankly beyond a joke no matter if the club involved is Portsmouth, Luton or Manchester Utd.

Again, your entire point seems to be no matter what Pompey fan say or do on the matter of ownership we're going to be wrong, that we are in no way entitled to feel agrieved when the Football League's ownership tests have failed us and that we are not allowed an opinion on the matter at all. And you seem to be recycling that old, bunk argument that Pompey fans will not blame the club for past mis-management.

 

Remarkably, I have not yet put anyone on my ignore list but I am getting very close to doing so with Lord Duckhunter

 

Dear oh dear, it seems like having an opinion that differs from the "poor old Pompey, the FL/Fa have let them down" & "they dont deserve a points deduction" seems to cause offense. Is this a forum for debating differing views or an extension of facebook where everybody "likes" everybody and we all say nice things.

In reply to someone who claimed the points deduction was wrong, I offered the opinion that it was right and if anything was a touch soft (bearing in mind Leeds got -17) and I also felt that the FAPP test is as robust as it can be within the framework of the law.

It appears that on this forum, opinions that may differ are unwelcome. Perhaps if you allowed other opinions and had some real debate, then maybe there would be a few more posters. This forum is becoming like my local Con club. Nobody in there and everybody agreeing with each other.

 

And what exactly would be the problem of everyone liking each other and saying nice things?

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Debating differing views and opinions is a quite valuable way to learn, as long as it is done with some respect.

Sometimes I start listening to the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 - he tries to get a debate going between a couple of people on a subject but so often the guests fail to debate. They are rude and talk/shout over each other to get their own opinions heard the loudest. At that point I switch off.

I don't need anyone being sarcastic or rude to me on this board.

 

Its a matter of being respectful to your fellow human beings while putting your opinion across, and I'm afriad you have not exhibited that respect for others that would make you opinion worthwhile to those of us here.

Earlier in this thread you basically called the opinion of Pompey fans worthless because we once cheered for Peter Storrie.

You've also said we dont have any right to think that FA and Football League have failed us in anyway despite there being clear evidence to the contrary - especially in the case of Antonov and CSI.

You've called the Pompey Supporters Trust useless and delusional which is an outright insult to a group of fans who actually tried to do something positive about the situation the club finds itself in.

You mocked the level of debate on this forum in your opening post in this thread because you saw someone express their opinion the 10 point deduction last season was harsh and in doing so you ignored the fact that the debate about both the point deduction last season and the point deduction for the season to come was between two Southampton fans, only one of which is a regular visiter to this forum and was the one you agreed with.

If you want your opinions to be taken more seriously and not simply dismissed as an attempt to rile the Pompey fans then I suggest, in the future, you stop going out of your way to insult us.

 

The PST may fail to acquire the necessary funds but at least they tried which is a damn sight better than doing nothing.

Chanrai is seemingly the best and only option available right now and therefore has to be backed by all. To be fair it seems that your fans are prepared to do this and will rigorously support whoever turns out for your club.

 

What I said was that the League's FAPPT can not be subjective and can not take into account supporters thoughts. To emphasis this I pointed out that some supporters sang Peter Storrie's name. Thus proving that one mans FAPP is another man's unfit & proper person.

As for CSI, they passed the test. There was nothing to bar them taking over. Instead of looking at the League, you should be looking at who sold the club to them. Unfortuately, you cant do that, because the person who did that, is your white in shining armour again.

I do think the PST are delusional, you have more chance of Fred Dinenage growing an afro than they have of running the club in its present form.

 

I do think the PST are delusional, you have more chance of Fred Dinenage growing an afro than they have of running the club in its present form.

 

If Chainrai is going to sell sell sell surely you may as well get liquidated and start again.Seems like with Chainrai pompey are only prolonging the agony.......

 

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

It's better to have tried and failed than to have never tried at all.