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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Enricky., Aug 10, 2012.

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  1. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    Lol I was winding baz up <ok>

    Liverpool make nowhere near what United do, hence the different valuations. We also have superior assets right now in almost every sense.
     
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  2. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    Liverpool are now debt free, and we have dramatically reduced the wage bill. Financially we are in very good shape. Things did not look to bad on the pitch last night from where I was sitting either.

    Bright times<magic>
     
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  3. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    We all know you are not debt free contrary to what some think.
     
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  4. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Have you got facts to back that up or is it mere speculation?
     
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  5. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Its about £30million.

    The same person who so many of you believe when he speaks about our finances also said it. Andersred.

    Im sure there will be plenty of stuff about it, its not massive mind.
     
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  6. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Swiss ramble puts it at £65million mind.

    Do you not pay £3million in interest a year? What for if not debt?
     
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  7. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    The £30m "debt" on the Liverpool balance sheet owed to UKSV/FSG is really equity by another name (it attracts no interest)

    We are in debt to our self<ok>
     
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  8. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Stadium debt? for your none existent new stadium? Is that what it is?
     
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  9. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    Thats actually correct. However some people wouldn't necessarily call it ''Debt'' From what I've heard Liverpool call it a ''transfer overdraft facility'' and have been using it for a couple of years, and if its a ''debt'' as such its normal and quite regular.

    The ''Stadium debt'' was wiped off when Liverpool made losses of £49 million a little while back, the figure was £35 million. The remaining £14 million was used to pay severance pay to staff ie Woy. That figure however didn't include the £25 million a season deal with Warrior Sports.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Do you guys trust FSG by the way?

    Like do you know everything you need to know? Who are the members for example?

    If so what makes you trust them and do you have any concerns over them considering the last bunch of cowboys you had?

    I have read one page on the worst forum on the internet and it seems they are either paranoid to **** or are genuinely concerned. You know which forum I mean aswell.
     
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  11. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Infact that should have its own thread but me starting it will no doubt just cause issues with some posters.

    Anyone want to start it or better yet point me towards a thread already in existence.

    Thanks.
     
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  12. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Or,

    Punters don't want to buy cheap shares that give them no say/vote in club affairs and dont want to put around 70% of their investment into the Glazers bank account.
     
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  13. Noblelox

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    In English please?

    So you are offending yourself?

    Hope they don't spend that stonking $3M in one shop now!

    And then they take another loan out on the club...

    In his child like imagination. Haven't you grasped that he just makes **** up to support his opinion, he doesn't have a clue what any real facts are, he just makes his own up... This is why the other manc fans think he is a dick <ok>
     
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  14. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    They're doing okay, they didn't buy us with a leveraged buyout which is the one thing none of us wanted. As for the ''debt'' I think an earlier poster is correct and it is the over-draft facility. FSG loaned themselves £30 million, which means it does carry no interest. In other words, Liverpool are debt free.
     
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  15. Alan

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    But the fact is that the IPO was sold out/over subscribed.
     
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  16. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Who's to say the price of those shares isn't going to rise? The $14 is only the SP.
     
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  17. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    ouch...

    I wont even waste my time embarrassing you again. Its cruel.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    We got off on the wrong foot today but you are a fairly decent well rounded poster.

    Still a **** though, naturally <ok>

    nothing to do with that post in the quote btw, just an opinion. Dont expect me to agree with you though on things <laugh>
     
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  19. Noblelox

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    1. Yes

    2. Don't care

    3. They have cleared debt and invested. Mere days after the cowboys got in, they exposed themselves as liars, by putting their debt on the club. A few months in we know they had no money, hated each other, and were so full of ****, it would have been laughable, if it wasn't happening to us.

    On the other hand, I've not seen your ginger froggy owners doing anything to grow the business, they just appear to be shuffling money around the club, much like the three cups game. You are all trying to watch the cup with the money under it, but I think you will find that one day, they will have run away and there will be no money under any cup.
     
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  20. Noblelox

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    In your imagination, maybe. In the real world....like **** you have, you special needs mong.
     
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