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Will United fans now finally accept they've gone backwards?

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  1. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Before United fans forget to insert their Tampons I'm not saying you are in complete decline but only a fool and his parrot would believe they are the force they were 10-15 years ago.

    I remember a time where any player in the world dreamed of playing for United and now players would rather join PSG than them and have labelled them "boring". Since the Glazers have come in I can't think of one marquee player they have signed. Remember Essien, Robben and Mikel all rejected them in favour of us and Ramsey rejected them in favour of Arsenal.

    They went in seriously for Hazard, Lucas Moura and Nasri recently and have been pipped to all three by Chelsea, City and PSG respectively. The only reason. RVP will go there is because he knows he isn't going to be displacing Tevez or Aguero from that line up, or even Balotelli. They are paying stupid money for an injury prone 29 year old which nobody other than City or Juve really seems to want despite having arguably the best season for club outside the La Liga duo.

    At least we at Chelsea accept we have gone backwards and are trying to address it, Arsenal haven't accepted it yet but will do soon. Liverpool accepted it but just aren't buying the right players.
     
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  2. Drogs

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    The bitter glory ****s will only call the players who don't join them 'money grabbers'.
     
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  3. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I can't wait for him to go from being "world class", "better than Oscar" to "overrated" and "overpriced" <rofl>
     
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  4. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Funny as the three clubs players have decided to join instead of United, are all bank rolled by billionaires and are notorious for paying ludicrous wages. The only player you mentioned when money wasn't the motivating factor was Ramsey. If I remember correctly, he picked Arsenal over Man United because Wenger went personally to talk him about playing for Arsenal, and United just sent some club representative. As far as I'm concerned Moura is a glorified Bebe. Quick, tall strong, and runs with his head down.

    Pretty much all of the Unites fans on not606 preferred Kagawa to Hazard. Sure Hazard has the potential to be a world beater and become a better player than Kagawa, but he's also an arrogant twat.

    We've apparently been in decline for 15 years. If winning the premier league 8 times and the Champions League twice is "being in decline." I'm okay with that. We've got the same squad that only lost the league on goal differential in the last minute of the last game. I'm really not all that worried.
     
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  5. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    backwards

    you are a ****ing idiot DL.

    If yourselves, City and now PSG want to risk your clubs futures then fine, United are run properly and considering the rules set to come in I would say our methods are far above that of yours or any money club.

    And if talented players want to give up on their career before they have even started by going to play in the mediocre french league then fine again.

    See at United we dont **** about, we dont pay agents 6million and we dont bend over backwards for a player or a club who have only an interest in money.

    Decide for yourselves which club has more about them.
     
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    Ramsey picked Arsenal as he didnt feel he was good enough for United.

    Bale did the same with Spurs.

    Even Hazard was concerned if he would get into our starting 11.

    Kagawa has more belief in himself.

    Moura is a moron and will regret this move bigtime when he cant get out of PSG in 3 years time or so.

    The likes of Ozil, Benzema, Sanshez went to spain and to Barcelona or Madrid. Hardly losing out really, players tend to be so think they think going there benefits their career.......... often thats not the case but alas they have yet to learn. Ozil has ben a massive success tbh.
     
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    I don't really care about the players being sold/bought but it's ridiculous how large these transfer fees are now for players with 'potential'

    Lucas Moura - 19 years old, £35m? Really?

    That makes Oscar look like a bargain <laugh> <doh>
     
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    Run properly? So that's why you all wore Norwich scarves and loads of your fans stopped going and formed their own club. Don't bend over backwards? Rooney bent you lot over good and proper.
    Yeah, I've decided thanks!
     
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  9. Drogs

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    Moura is 5 ft 8 pal. How is that tall?

    PSG have the potential to win trophies, chosing them over United DOES NOT make you a mercenary.

    As for paying ludicrous wages, I don't think one of our players earns more than Wayne Rooney.
     
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  10. Drogs

    Drogs Well-Known Member

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    You lot seriously need to get over yourselves.
     
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  11. Ryan_wfc

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    I can't tell if this is a WUM
     
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    It's not a wum, it's just him trying to take some sort of high ground over Chelsea by believing the red tops.
     
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    Didnt say anything about how we were acquired but the glazers have run us well, increasing revenues massively and with the new shirt deal sorted and the IPO they are continuing in that sense.
     
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    6million to an agent who does exactly **** all that the player couldnt do for free is being shafted. I doubt many would argue that point.

    Our policy is well known, we make an offer, we negotiate but have a ceiling bid that we will not budge from. Its cost us many players but only to clubs who offer insane amounts. We only ever get beaten by clubs who will offer way over the real value of a player.

    Its not worth playing those silly games so we dont, its barely harmed us to be fair as most clubs if not all would swap their last decade with ours in a heart beat.l
     
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    Dont read the papers at all.

    Fergie said as much himself, the figures may be off but regardless, huge fees were paid to the agent to facilitate the deal.
     
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    Don't think it's just United going backwards. Other clubs have as much and more financial clout as them these days.
     
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  17. Drogs

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    Ok give me video evidence of Fergie 'saying as much himself'?

    Whilst I don't agree with DL's headline, I think you lot are so arrogant when players reject you it's unreal.
     
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  18. Boss

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    Its rather naive to talk about players turning down utd in the context to suggest they are in decline.......reason? top players have always turned down Utd!, gazza done it, linekar done it, anderton,,,,shearer...ronaldinho...we could add to the list if needed BUT man utd are a club which attract a certain type of player, certain type of mentality and even with an average squad by their standards they lost the title on goal difference.

    There is no decline, they just don't go around bidding for a whole list of big money players, they target a select few and if they get turned down then its big news, because they are man utd.

    It may seem arrogance from utd fans but in a way they are correct, when they say certain players turn them down because they don't have the belief they can go there and be a success, while some players thrive on that pressure.

    Man utd are the biggest club in England, they have the most successful manager and their "decline" is what clubs in England can only dream of, and that says a lot.
     
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  19. Ryan_wfc

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    I didn't mean the agent bit, I meant where you said you don't bend over for a player who's only interested in money. That is exactly what happened with Rooney.
     
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  20. Four2Three1©

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    Yeah any player in the world... Like Shearer and Gascoigne <doh>

    Essien Robben Mikel all joined you when you were nobodies... You argue RVP will only join us because he'd be guaranteed to get into are side...
    Same could have been said for Robben, Mikel and Essien surely?... Or maybe it was the money?

    I'm more than happy with signing players like Valencia and Kagawa to be honest... United have very rarely spent money every season the way City, Chelsea or PSG do... We make marquee signings every 3 or 4 years... Rooney, Berba etc.

    It's hardly rocket science when the players turning us down, happen to be joining the clubs with sugar daddies...
    The day teams without unlimited funds start outbidding us and beating us to players- I'll be worried.
     
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