That wasn't the case at all. When he first left I genuinely wished him well and was going to look out for your results to see the progress he could make there playing to his philosophies. I thought he did well here and had a good opportunty to manage a very big club. But he has somewhat soured these emotions by constantly plugging away at the media talking about our players, telling them about allens release clause (it must have been him as he was the only person outside club who knew about it, no other club had enquired when this was released and our club declared how angry they were that this had been made public) and also telling siggy that if he didn't sign for Swansea then he could go to Liverpool. Again the last point would have been fine but the fact that he went to the media first telling them that Swansea have first choice over him only for him to then say that if he doesn't go there then you will have him just makes him come across as a snake. If he wanted him when he left just say so and bid, don't insult our intelligence by making out that your on our side. You see my point here lol? I'm starting to ramble a bit.
But what does it matter? Surely your players are as smart as you're fans and will know that Rodgers has no tactical skill what-so-ever and was merely copying previous incumbents. He has no "plan b" and his acquisitions are usually Ill founded? So surely those players will want to stay away from an incompetent guy like that, yes?
Dirty I made no such claims. Other people may have their opinions which is fine but I said no such things.
And no I don't see you're point. Are you seriously telling me that if Laudrup has inside knowledge of his previous clubs best players contracts/mindsets that could be the difference in Swansea progressing you want him to stay quiet out of respect for the club who no longer pays him? I think this is where fans confuse their part and the part of clubs employees. Our part is to turn up, sing & get all emotional. For your club to survive it needs to run by business men who do the absolute best for the club that is actually paying them. "gentleman's agreements" have about as much relevance in football as a player kissing their current clubs badge. If your club had wanted to secure their players from Rodgers that "agreement" would have been locked in contractual iron. The fact it wasn't is down to your Clubs management recognising they could make a bob or two from selling players to a well off club like ours. Talk of an agreement is to have all you Swansea fans angry at BigBadBrendan rather than the guys actually doing the selling. All good business strategy.
Now you are just getting silly, I am assuming that Allen has an agent, Yes/no? and that said agent will make more money if Allen moves to Liverpool. So Hmm.... let me see, who might have made it public about the release clause?
Actually I dont think Allen has an agent, I may be wrong though... And it's not te fact that he is coming back for our players, that happens all the time in football. It's that he said he wouldn't. Dont agree to something if you have no intention of honoring the agreement. If you can't see where I'm coming from now you never will but I thought I'd just get my point across
Did he? I honestly don't know if he did. as I have said, if the allegations are true then you will have a case but at the moment they are just that.
I think most of us can see the relevance of your point and at least you have put it across in a sensible level headed way unlike some we've had on our board the last few weeks but ultimately this is down to the people running your club as much as it is ours. HJ seems to me like a very clued up chairman...he has done a great job of ensuring BR comes out of this looking like the bogeyman as far as you and your fans are concerned. However do you honestly believe that had BR stayed at Swansea that Siggy wouldn't have gone elsewhere or that Joe Allens release clause wouldn't have leaked out if and when a top club came sniffing around? The simple fact is that football is a multi billion pound industry these days and the more money involved the more brutal it becomes and the less loyalty can be relied upon. Do Swansea fans not take in to account that we as a club have seen exactly the same things happening with our players in recent years?
Again, I don't expect our players to stay forever, ash and Allen are both imo destined to play at the top. It's just the manner in which he has gone about his business that has had us riled up. Especially when he still claims to be on our side so to speak. With Allen there isn't exactly a lot we can do about it as he has a release clause but ash will be a different matter all together. We've been known to turn down quite a few high bids for our players in the past (Bodde 5.5m after out first season in the championship) so I wouldn't expect us to let him go on the cheap either. As for siggy, it's impossible to tell and maybe he wouldn't have ended up here regardless. But again, it's the false act that Brendan was looking out for us that gets to me more than anything. Just be straight and honest, that's literally all we want from him.
But as yet you actually have nothing factual to say he hasn't been exactly straight and honest and yet you've hung, drawn and quartered him already. Firstly he came out and said that IF Siggy decided not to go to Swansea then he would consider him an option. Do you honestly think this influenced his decision not to sign for yourselves? It seems highly unlikely seeing as he didn't sign for us either. Secondly he hasn't actually even signed anyone from Swansea (player wise) has he? Yet already he has been demonised for breaking an agreement nobody knows any exact details of...and in actual fact he hasn't even broken said "agreement" anyway as we haven't signed anyone from your club (yet).
Telling the press that if siggy doesn't sign for us then he would sign him, of course that's going to influence his decision. I can't see how it wouldn't. I just so happened that spurs then decided to jump in and offer more than yourselves. That's why you didn't get him. If he has no intention of signing our players and honouring the agreement then what would be the point in coming forward declaring an interest in Allen and telling the press that if our players were to come on the market he wants to be in that market? His intentions are clear to us which is why he being slated.
Do you really think Siggy and his agent weren't aware of interest from other clubs anyway? That's what agents do mate, they tout their man around to see what the best deal they can get is. Had BR said nothing do you seriously think he would have just signed for Swansea without his agent alerting other clubs. He's a talented young player at a decent price...hardly surprising there was interest eh. The main problem for me here is that its a lot easier for you lot to simply pin all the blame on BR because you can now paint him as the villain. Maybe what you should do is look a bit closer to home. If this gentlemans agreement is so porous that BR can do what he likes anyway (as you lot seem so sure of) then why the hell didn't your chairman sort out a more binding agreement or simply refuse us permission to speak to him in the first place? Its all very well crying about BRs apparent lack of loyalty and integrity etc but it just seems like an easy get out to me
