Maybe. But then again we could be completely "debt free" like Chelsea claim to be, with an uber rich owner who throws money at every player we have, and yet have slid back down the table from 1st to 5th over the same period. Veron, Forlan, Kleberson and Djemba Djemba showed what can happen when SAF has money burning a hole in his pocket and pressure to spend it. Even with SAF in charge there is no guarantee we would have done any better under a different owner. Just look at what happened at City in 2008 - new owner + new money + pressure to buy players led to them buying a whole load of crap that actually set them back a year or so imo. Also no guarantee SAF would have actually spent more money - we all know what he is like in terms of not wanting to overpay unless he is absolutely certain he has the right player. Ultimately, I look at our eight major trophies over seven years as being one of our best ever periods in terms of success, and arguably our outright best ever period given the strength of the competition we have faced. And that period has coincided with our manager being very happy with our owners, and not raising any complaints, when compared to under the plc when he was unhappy with the board over Shearer and over the whole Magnier / McManus incident. So I personally find it pretty hard to complain right now.
For all the talk or worth a lot of investors consider united vastly overpriced. So, apart from not being worth as much as they think they are it turns out that a 3rd of the world aer not infact united fans, eh UIR. Glaziers are looking for cap not looking to inject. Investors know this and it is making your club very unattractive
The investors don't really matter - we have enough banks underwriting the deal to ensure that even if the investors don't buy the shares the banks will. Besides which, everyone's known the Glazers won't invest their own cash in Utd for years. Didn't stop the Qatar Foundation and the "Red Knights" falling over themselves in a bid to buy the club. No bottom of the barrel investors for Utd
These people such as Andersred can go **** themselves with some of the things they have said against the manager in the past few days.
Just a small minority of fans who have a problem with Fergie. Andersred was the one who started this by claiming Fergie would be getting shares wih this IPO which Fergie has now denied. He is part of the MUST group and has an agenda against the club. Then we have those morons on Red Issue who are the ones making out Fergie has done something wrong.
Regardless of wether or not we do have. £40m budget, we don't need Moura, although I think he has a lot of potential. He won't make our team any better than it is now. If Arsenal has any say into where RVP ends up, it won't be in England. Anyways there an article in the daily fail saying we're trying to wrap up the Moura deal.
Hmmm...a blog on a website with a banner advert at the top appealing for contributors, and a disclaimer at the bottom saying these are nothing but the views of the writer. Hardly a reputable source - for all we know it was bazray who wrote it! Also worth noting that our budget is £40 million net. So with the sale of Park, De Laet, James and Norwood we still have over £25 million to spend, possibly more if Berb goes. In addition, £40 million would be our highest ever net spend in a summer window, beating our previous record of £38 million last summer, so I have no idea how anyone with any common sense can see that as negative!! This fella: http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/ He's a financial analyst who actually does some good fundamental analysis on Utd and football finance in general. And then often spoils it by going off on some rant about the Glazers and how evil they are. He's one of the "Love Utd Hate Glazer" group, although after recent developments imo that slogan should be changed to "Hate Glazer So Much We Aren't That Bothered About Utd Anymore". MUST have become equally blinkered bitter imo - so much so that they are actually now in the process of trying to derail an IPO that will reduce the debt and interest payments by around a quarter purely because the Glazers will also make some money out of it Although to his credit, andersed does at least recognise and admit when he's been wrong, whereas MUST just keeps banging that broken old drum...
Yes, what great news it will be to blow thirty million quid on a complete gamble of a player we don't need instead of reinforcing where we are weak. I for one am ecstatic.
I wonder if the Moura story is more of a media story created by his own team or representatives to try and convince United to start talks again after they walked away from the deal. I get the feeling they wanted to get as much money as humanly possible from United and when the deal stalled they may of wished they took the last offer, straight away stories came out of Brazil suggesting the deal could be "resurrected" and was still alive. Stories are starting that United are going to try a bid for Sahin, a full transfer and not a loan deal, and I certainly hope it's true. I've been a big fan of Sahin for a while now, he really is a quality player and has struggled to break in to the Real team.
He certainly plays in a position we need. Considering we are obviously skint I would be massively disappointed if we went after Moura for the type of money being touted. It would be suicide. Worth a punt at ten or twelve million, otherwise forget it.
You're probably right, but then I remember people saying the same thing about Ronaldo in 2003. We still need another CM, but Moura isn't completely unnecessary imo. Next season I reckon we'll be playing a 442 / 4231 as the situation suits, and I see the squad for next season shaping up as: De Gea / Lindegaard Rafael / Smalling---Vidic / Evans---Rio / Jones / Smalling---Evra / New Player 2 of Carrick / Cleverley / Scholes / Giggs / New Player Valencia / Nani---Rooney / Kagawa---Young / Moura Rooney / Chicharito / Welbeck So if we get Moura all we need is cover for Evra and another CM if Fletcher doesn't recover.
You still banging on about how he's not really a right winger Shwan? Bore off, until such time as I'm shown otherwise that is what he is.
True, but by summer 2003 Keane was on a rapid downhill slide imo - nowhere near the player he once was, and far gone enough to convince SAF to take a punt on Kleberson and the Djemba twins. SAF still preferred to go for Ronaldo rather than bring in a ready made Keane replacement, and that decision worked out pretty damn well in the end!
